Sustainable Homestead Ideas

DarkhorseFarmer

In the Brooder
May 11, 2015
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Hampton, MN
Hello everyone. My wife and I bought a home 3 months ago that is essentially in the country. We both work jobs in financial planning and commute into the city. We have enjoyed living out here and have already gotten started in building our new lifestyle. My goal is to give you all some background, with the hope that some of you may be able to offer some advice. I'll add some pictures int the next few days when I have a moment.

So we have a home with a large pole barn that is really just the structure on a gravel floor. I plan to run power in the near future, and finish it off down the road. We have 15 acres, most of which is woods. We have probably about an acre of lawn space where the house, driveway, pole barn, and front ditch is. In addition, we have about a half acre, maybe more, at the very back of the property. This was utilized by the previous owners as a dirt bike course for their kids, and it has jumps throughout and is overgrown with tall grass. This was once a corn field and the land next to it was as well (more on this area of the property later).

We have a small SUV and trailer, but are limited on what we can tow (2,200 lbs). I recently had an f150 but sold it partially to get married and buy this home. We also have a small John Deere 2305 tractor with FEL and Yamaha ATV. Otherwise, aside from a wood splitter/chain saw, it's all simple hand tools.

It's our goal to be as self sufficient and sustainable in our lifestyle as possible. We have no kids (yet), one dog (possibly another soon), and 16 chickens with room to go to 40 under our current coop/run arrangement. We also have a small herb garden and tomatoes growing on our deck. It was our plan to have a big garden this year, but the spot we picked to till up, was in an area that won't get ideal sun, and has too much water runoff.

It's my goal to get more into farming. I would enjoy selling produce to stores, CSAs, or the local farmers markets. Our biggest challenge here is marketing ourselves. If we're too big, we might not be able to place our product, and if we're to small we wouldn't have enough. We are looking to do a garden on the half acre of land at the back of our property, and sell it at the market next summer. Our main concerns are Deer and animals eating our crop. There are a ton of deer in the area, and it's probably too big of an area to use blood meal and products like that. There are also millions of rabbits. In addition, we would not have power out there, and no well water, though we could use rain catchers. So if we decided or needed to do a greenhouse, I'm not sure how effective that might be? How would we heat it? Would we need to heat it? Do we have to fence the garden? That would hurt our bottom line...

One of my main goals is to transition my wife into this being her full time job, in addition to raising our future children. Then down the line, I would retire from my current work and help as well. Our business ideas include what I have laid out already, in addition to purchasing more land to have a pumpkin patch, apple orchard, spruce/pine tree farm, larger vegetable garden, beer brewing/hops growing, and grape growing/winery. I realize that is a wide net to cast, but we like the idea of being diversified and all of these are potential money makers. We have also explored tending bee hives, aquaponics, and other live stock.

So my question to all of you is, what areas should we be focusing on, do you have any tips for us, and what other areas should we be potentially exploring for business ventures within sustainable living/farming?

Thanks everyone, and sorry for the long winded post!

FWIW, we are 25 minutes south of St. Paul, MN.
 
Start with chickens laying free range eggs. Many peeps will buy these in the city. The price they bring in is well higher than corporate eggs.
If you do gardening and do not have it fenced........ Do not expect to harvest much... Then resort to selling rabbits. They will be well fed..


If your egg business evolves well.. then expand it.. I know you wanted to be diversified,, Proceed slowly with taking no more challenges than you can handle at the time.. If you have to many things going, then you will need to hire help. That will cut into profit and hurt your bottom line if you are still small scale.
WISHING YOU BEST.
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I will follow this thread and add ideas as things develop for you.
 
Our main concerns are Deer and animals eating our crop. There are a ton of deer in the area, and it's probably too big of an area to use blood meal and products like that. There are also millions of rabbits. In addition, we would not have power out there, and no well water, though we could use rain catchers. So if we decided or needed to do a greenhouse, I'm not sure how effective that might be? How would we heat it? Would we need to heat it? Do we have to fence the garden? That would hurt our bottom line...

One of my main goals is to transition my wife into this being her full time job, in addition to raising our future children. Then down the line, I would retire from my current work and help as well. Our business ideas include what I have laid out already, in addition to purchasing more land to have a pumpkin patch, apple orchard, spruce/pine tree farm, larger vegetable garden, beer brewing/hops growing, and grape growing/winery. I realize that is a wide net to cast, but we like the idea of being diversified and all of these are potential money makers. We have also explored tending bee hives, aquaponics, and other live stock.
As far as deer and rabbits go, remember hunting is an option. Saves the garden and gets you grass-fed meat, so two birds with one stone.

Start with laying chickens and the garden.


Aquaponics isn't really sustainable, even though it's often said to be that way. The electricity and money needed to keep the water flowing/clean/warm means it rarely adds up. You could however raise fish in a pond. Bee-keeping is also good.

Plant the trees soon, or later you'll wish you had.

I think swine would be good for you, as you say you have a lot of woods. You could raise hogs there.
 
you plan sounds just like ours.. we have 18 acres of solid hardwood forest with a bunch off tiny buildings and no power and no running water.. i agree with heritagegoose13 you should look into hogs.. i think guinea hogs. they are a smaller hog that do a lot of foraging // and get those trees/ grapes in now! We are considering buying acre or two of land for a u-pick blueberry / strawberry patch maybe .
 
You've got a lifetime of ambition in your post!

Sit down with your wife and outline priorities.

First, get trees and/or hardscape in. Hardscape would be fences, water sources, compost bins, burn areas, paths and walkways. Your trees need to be in the ground by next spring/summer. Plan for diverse crops, but ones which you like to eat! Remember, if you're self-sufficient, you're planting things you want to eat. We planted long vine beans one year - and discovered no one liked 'em particularly. We ate them....but next year, we planted a different kind of bean!

A garden which is not fenced well is useless. And even when it is fenced well, needs to be monitored and maintained - i.e. water close by, compost bins close by, burn pit (for weeds) close by. Having a garden in the very back of 18acres means it will not get tended often - it's just too far away! Same is true for maintaining fruit trees or grapes. Make the area inviting for you to be near so that you want to go do the tasks necessary.

Grapes are great for jelly - just be careful, as a lot goes a long way quick! As for wine making - sure that's neat, but are you willing to invest the time to become knowledgeable enough to really make something people wish to buy? Same with beer - sounds really interesting on paper...but that's a whole lot of equipment, expense, time and knowledge to do something marketable.

As for production items - first figure out if you REALLY want to become sellers, or produce for your own needs. I'd highly recommend you produce for your own needs and sell the surplus. At least while you're getting started. Our family looked at what we eat and tried to estimate what would be useful for a period of time (3mo, 6mo, 9mo, 1yr)...in the winter we eat a lot of green peppers and onions. So I grow our own onions and store them - they're easy to store, easy to grow and does impact our food budget. In the summer, we eat a lot of berries and pies - so we grow what we can, pick all we can, find free what we can then freeze/can/save some and eat the rest. All these things allow us a fair amount of food savings, although they are time consuming.

Then, when you've got an idea of what you'll use, start planning on how to obtain it. When we first started out, we divided the chores into his and hers. So he takes care of the mechanical things (cars, tractors, mowers, chain saws, etc.); she takes care of the garden, the bees, the hens. We take care of big tasks together - building fences, painting, building outbuildings. The devil is in the details though - how to get big projects complete while routine matters need attention and there's still only so much time in a day! When children come, it gets even more interesting.....

And going through a list such as that (his/hers) will help you both figure out what goals are more important. Perhaps she is not interested in keeping bees, but you are. So, that would go under your side of the balance sheet. Or neither of you wish to deal with fish/aquaponics - then it gets erased. But you both REALLY love apple trees (cider is big right now, alcoholic and not) - so you'll spend this year clearing a couple acres for an orchard with 60 trees of four or five varieties.

But only do things which you really truly love to do. For then the labor is fun and exciting and rewarding. Yes, certain tasks are drudgery - pulling the 1000th thistle of the year isn't fun...but the rewards are great when you can look out at an abandoned garden area which is now thriving.

Good luck...
 
Get an area cleared for a garden up near your house. Even if it is a small area just to grow food for yourself. A garden at the back of the acreage will not get the attention that it will need for good production and will be overrun by animals. You can use that area for a food plot to enhance your hunting oppertunity. Some people will lease hunting areas ...
If you are going to heat with wood, GREAT! you will have use for the trees cleared out for the garden space and they will take a little while to dry when cut green. We always had our winter wood supply cut, split and stacked by mid July so it would be dry by November (I grew up north Green Bay, Wisconsin).
Wooded land is not that helpful for self-sufficiency except for heat source. Plan what you want to keep and what can go. There is little graze in a forest, that is why the deer come out at night to eat.
 
I agree with the advice to start small. You already found out about choosing a good garden spot the hard way. Live on the property a year or so before you start going all out. This winter/next spring you may find boggy areas, things like that. Spend the time focusing on sustaining yourselves. find a garden spot close to the house. Once your wife has a child or two, a garden at the back of the place will go neglected. Just out the back door is easy and therapeutic
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. Chickens are a great starter animal. See how you like butchering excess cockerels, or get a small batch of meat birds this fall and see how those go. I agree hogs sound like a good idea for your wooded areas. You'll probably also want to look into another dog, something along the lines of a livestock guardian. You'll do better at work knowing your wife and kids have canine back up, not just for animal predators.
 
Good advice. Thanks everyone! Does anyone know how much space Guinea pigs require? This is something that interests me. It seems like pigs are the only livestock that I could have in a woodland area. So is it something like 3 pigs an acre? I'm guessing there is a rule of thumb just like chickens...
 

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