Swollen nasal glands

[Spruceroost]

I have a Japanese who has been this way since March. The vet believes it is bacterial and I have been doing nasal flushes using a round tip needle through both nostils with a mix of saline and Tylan 50. She still eats and drinks fine.

The bird has yellow puss discharge and gunk from both eyes and both glands are swollen, not so much the nose, and bubbly eyes. Nothing inside the mouth. She was with a closed flock and nobody else ever got it before I isolated her. Does anyone have any experience with this because I've tried everything I've read at this point.

Here is a picture of the bird and all the medicines I have treated with at some point. Nothing has worked.

 

[Eggcessive]

Is there a bad odor from the face? It looks like it could be coryza, but your vet could obtain swabs and send them in for testing. When there is pus in the sinus cavity and around the eye, it should be squeezed out for medications to work. Terramycin eye ointment or plain Neosporin can be applied to the eyes twice a day after getting the pus out.

 

[Spruceroost]

No bad odor. Vet thought it was bacterial. That just might work. I'm gonna try it now.

 

[Eggcessive]

Here is the video I was trying to post originally:

 

[Spruceroost]

Is there a bad odor from the face? It looks like it could be coryza, but your vet could obtain swabs and send them in for testing. When there is pus in the sinus cavity and around the eye, it should be squeezed out for medications to work. Terramycin eye ointment or plain Neosporin can be applied to the eyes twice a day after getting the pus out.

Okay so I think that's the right track. The only problem is the size and location as hers is directly under the eye and the swelling size in mine is massive. I tried my best but it just crushed her eye so I tried using a needle, But not much luck either. This thing may take a scalpel or something, I feel bad for this chicken, the pus is really hard and is gonna need more than a needle to get through. Any ideas or has anyone done this?

 

[Spruceroost]

So I went ahead and took her to the vet as I didn't want to try my hand slicing her up ( I tried using a needle and determined it was too hardened, my guess was correct.) They ended up having to do surgery and cut a 1 cm incision on both sides, finding the puss inside to have hardened over time. I hope the following info helps anyone with nasal issues moving forward:

I was recommended a nasal flush in the past, but once you have lumps the puss needs to be popped, the videos above show that if it is under the eye and new you can squeeze it out before it's settled, if it has been sitting for a bit (3 months for me waiting for it to heal on its own) you are gonna have to get it cut out.

They prescribed me Meloxicam and more importantly, Tmps suspension, which I read to be an anti-bacterial .2 ml administed 2 times a day for 2 weeks.

The vet told me it looked like cocidiosis, which she said was just a fancy word for a sinus infection. I always associated that to be related to some disease passed on by other birds (mine is a closed flock, she's been isolated since March, all chickens from same hatchery, nobody else had symptoms.) I have no idea how she got it, but I've also heard of people culling their flock over it. According to the vet she's gonna be healed though, and others won't be at at risk to get it. Thanks for everyone's help!

Here she is post op:

 

[Eggcessive]

Do you mean coryza instead of coccidiosis? Coccidiosis is an intestinal disease. Coryza is one of a few respiratory diseases that causes sinus infection, and the pus in the eye. MG also can cause it. Either disease makes them a carrier for life. So it is possible that others may get it. You vet could do some collecting of swabs to get the disease tested, or you could contact your state poultry lab from this list:
https://www.metzerfarms.com/PoultryLabs.cfm

 

[hayley3]

So I went ahead and took her to the vet as I didn't want to try my hand slicing her up ( I tried using a needle and determined it was too hardened, my guess was correct.) They ended up having to do surgery and cut a 1 cm incision on both sides, finding the puss inside to have hardened over time. I hope the following info helps anyone with nasal issues moving forward:

I was recommended a nasal flush in the past, but once you have lumps the puss needs to be popped, the videos above show that if it is under the eye and new you can squeeze it out before it's settled, if it has been sitting for a bit (3 months for me waiting for it to heal on its own) you are gonna have to get it cut out.

They prescribed me Meloxicam and more importantly, Tmps suspension, which I read to be an anti-bacterial .2 ml administed 2 times a day for 2 weeks.

The vet told me it looked like cocidiosis, which she said was just a fancy word for a sinus infection. I always associated that to be related to some disease passed on by other birds (mine is a closed flock, she's been isolated since March, all chickens from same hatchery, nobody else had symptoms.) I have no idea how she got it, but I've also heard of people culling their flock over it. According to the vet she's gonna be healed though, and others won't be at at risk to get it. Thanks for everyone's help!

Here she is post op:

I couldn't even look at the first image...I'm so happy the vet was able to help her .....

 

[Spruceroost]

Do you mean coryza instead of coccidiosis? Coccidiosis is an intestinal disease. Coryza is one of a few respiratory diseases that causes sinus infection, and the pus in the eye. MG also can cause it. Either disease makes them a carrier for life. So it is possible that others may get it. You vet could do some collecting of swabs to get the disease tested, or you could contact your state poultry lab from this list:
https://www.metzerfarms.com/PoultryLabs.cfm

Hmm. Yeah whichever is the sinus infection. According to the vet it would allow me to return the bird to the flock and she would not be able to transmit it to the others, it was a form of Sinusitis.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Hmm. Yeah whichever is the sinus infection. According to the vet it would allow me to return the bird to the flock and she would not be able to transmit it to the others, it was a form of Sinusitis.

Call your vet and have them email you a report that includes the diagnosis.