Tapeworms - A few questions

[casportpony]

I think I might be wrong... looks pyrantel pamoate and piperazine shouldn't be used together.

-Kathy

 

[IronEagle]

@IronEagle , you could also use just praziquantil (also sold as Droncit) tablets for dogs and cats. Do *not* use Drontal as it has praziquantel and pyrantel pamoate, which together might be lethal in chickens. Need to find that source to verify, so don't quote me on that just yet.

-Kathy

Kathy,
Thank you for this information. I know a person here close by who does dog rescue. I'm going to ask what she's got on hand. Hopefully I'll be able to find one of these here!

Many blessings,
IE

 

[casportpony]

I know we're talking about treating tapes in chickens, but a double dose of pyrantel is said to treat tapes in horses.


-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

This is one I haven't seen before:
http://www.jedds.com/-strse-510/MEDIWORM-TABLETS-100-ct/Detail.bok

-Kathy

 

[dawg53]

I know we're talking about treating tapes in chickens, but a double dose of pyrantel is said to treat tapes in horses.


-Kathy

Killing the tapeworms head is the key in any animal. That's what praziquantel and albendazole do in poultry as well as other animals...safe, effective treatment.

 

[rbaker0345]

Impolite? No, you stated that praziquantel mixed with moxidectin is toxic to birds aka Quest Plus. Moxidectin Plus (Quest Plus) CAN be used in poultry to treat tapes. I've used it. Dosing must be exact...that's why I dont recommend it. It's much safer to use z-gold or equimax.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/421762/moxidectin-quest-wormer
http://www.shellspoultry.com/poultry-health.php
http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=684bab81-a4aa-4ac4-95fd-6ac6e9a97545

As I said, I don't have the info in front of me but I remember reading somewhere that one of the horse dewormers that has praziquantel in it plus another medication happens to be toxic to birds. It must be the prazi/pyrantel (and I can't remember which brand that goes under) as Kathy has stated which is the toxic combo. We must have read the same publication.

Anyone who has had horses through the nineties would know that before praziquantel was widely available, the standard treatment for tapes was a double dose of Strongid i.e. pyrantel. Don't believe me- google it. Lots of people still use it even though the prazi is much more effective against cestodes. But of course, you can't double dose chickens with pyrantel so that point is moot- sorry for mentioning it- train of thought and all.

I do apologize for going off on a tangent about fenbendazole when the point of the thread happened to be tapes. I was thinking of how the person posting lived in a jungle and how many parasites would be attacking her birds as a result. I live in a swamp and so I know firsthand just how many parasitic organisms thrive in hot/wet conditions so my mind went directly to broad spectrum dewormers. AND I am oh so sorry for misprounouncing albendazole.

I remember reading also that certain antibiotics will kill tapes if praziquantel is not available but before I get attacked for posting that little nugget I would recommend researching that info as I found it on wikipedia.

 

[dawg53]

Quote: I can relate about swamps. Until 2 years ago, I lived most my life close to the Okefenokee Swamp...fished and hunted in there on occasion or two.
Check out Hygromycin B.

 

[IronEagle]

This is one I haven't seen before:
http://www.jedds.com/-strse-510/MEDIWORM-TABLETS-100-ct/Detail.bok

-Kathy

Kathy,
Do you think this will work for chickens (since it is made for pigeons?) if so, I can plan to order some next time a friend is coming down.

Thanks!
IE

 

[casportpony]

Quote:
Below is what their website says and a chicken is a galliform, so it should work is you give the correct dose. I know the praziquantil dose needs to be 10mg per 2.2 pounds, but not sure about the pyrantel, so have to look that up.

http://www.jedds.com/-strse-510/MEDIWORM-TABLETS-100-ct/Detail.bok
"A broadspectrum deworming tablet for pigeons, raptors and galliforms. Mediworm is currently the only broadspectrum single dose, combination tablet, known of in the world. Highly effective against Roundworm, Hairworm and Tapeworm.

Extremely safe, causes no regurgitation and is very economical. The small size of the tablet makes it easy to dose. Mediworm is the golden standard in routine deworming.

Composition:
. Pyrantel Pamoate 20mg
. Praziquantel 5mg

Dosage Treatment:
. May be used in the breeding and racing season.
. Dose one Mediworm tablet per pigeon. The tablet must be dosed on an empty crop.
. In case of severe worm infestations, it is advisable to repeat the treatment after 14 days.

Available Sizes; 100 tablets.

Reg. Nr. G2559 Act 36 of 1947.

SKU: MED034
MPN: Medpet
UPC: Wormers
"
-Kathy

 

[IronEagle]

Wonderful, have it on my list to order next time I can find someone to pack it down for me.

Thank you again for your help!
IE