Tatanka Breeders Club: Meat Quail project with history, discussion, pictures and videos

[MobyQuail]

here is a good pic of the 3 parents of our hatching now white "tatankas".
not saying these are gonna be monsters right off, just documenting.
split roo, split hen, white hen

 

[MobyQuail]

#4 just out of the winehatcher. 2 white and 2 brown so far.

 

[MobyQuail]

and a white.

 

[MobyQuail]

thanks for the interest ya'll. if I had a hundred birds I would give you all eggs. I am sorry.

all booked up for shipping eggs for the next couple months. I have to make sure to hatch enough before Summer sets in down here. last year was a scorcher...

gonna double up on the 3 people promised to already bfrancis, yinepu and WMR, send them 2 packages of 50-60 eggs one week apart, make sure they get a good start.
so that is gonna let me ship 2 weeks worth of eggs each month and set 2 weeks worth of eggs each month. Fair?

In the next 2-3 months I hope we see some new people poppin in here with pics.

"If" their birds make the "cuts" and with the way they lay eggs, we should have a nice little co-op spread out from East to West and North to South.
Thus, making it easier for us to focus on getting a steward in each State with these birds ...muahahahaha.

Northeast- Rhode Island
Southeast- Florida
Midwest- Kansas, Oklahoma, Illinois
Southwest- Texas (2)
Rocky Mountain- Colorado
West Coast- California (2)

It will take some time we can only go one day at a time.

 

[MobyQuail]

awesome its a rainy windy friday night. we got droid, we got data.



first brood of the splits is 17 days

and new from droid, its the videoscale, woohoo! as you can see nothing up our skirts




next brood is 11 days

and we got some young lunkers, lil bigger than the brood ahead of them at 12 days. kinda like the little brother thing?
the browns avg 95g and the whites 85g. 10 grams heavier avg than previous brood a day earlier. lets reflect on that...

 

[dt1958]

Nice growth rate TD, looks like all the 17 day old chicks are all over 4 oz.

 

[MobyQuail]

Thanks DT, appreciate ya sir.

I went back and looked, the F1 splits, which were crosses of bills lil shaggy browns to my lil whites, @ 12 days my eventual keepers were 85-86 grams

our second brood of their offspring, (of the selected birds from the data below 11/19, 3 months ago.) has 7 birds @ 11 days 80,80,89,91,92,100,107

and a little bit of the mad scientist in me at the bottom there. to come up with a "guideline" to get to 280g by 42 days.



now, by guideline, we know they have to be 280g by 42 days.
working backwards and with our data we can designate "cull" points.
knowing if a bird isnt going to hit a mark it is removed earlier,
saving room and feed and not contributing to the future gene pool.


we can also project out, I hated calculus. extrapolate. never extrapolate from a sample...

days old weight (g)
42 280
35 240
28 200
21 160
14 80

lets even break it down further, we should be able to take a chick at any age and weigh it and know how many grams per day it will gain on average.

so, in my experience, they gain almost 2 oz per week from 4-6 weeks, once the girls start laying their energy is transferred to an egg a day.
the bigger they are at 4 weeks, the more % gain per day is more likely.

so here is some Dr. Seuss for ya, goes in hand with "get em as big as you can get em as fast as ya can"

#5 the more they can eat, the bigger they get. the bigger they get, the more they can eat.

we can fill in the blanks of our guideline

days old weight (g)
42 280
41
40
39 260
38
37
36
35 240
34
33
32 220
31
30
29
28 200
27
26
25 180
24
23
22
21 160
20
19
18 120
17
16
15
14 80

#5 the more they can eat, the bigger they get. the bigger they get, the more they can eat.

 

[MobyQuail]

Quail Pedi Day

Some of the big girls getting spoiled this morning, preventative, helps with callouses and easily removes poo balls on the toenails.

Notice how calm.

epsom salts with johnsons foot soap mixed with hot water poured over pine shavings to keep their footing stable.

 

[MobyQuail]

Those girls made the cut.

Ya know, I'm a skeptic, a cynic, even worse if I am hungry.

Its like, finally, someone posting pics of their birds on scales, very cool, but... is it legit?


look the goal of this whole thing is to get these co-op birds out there. Whatever they are, they are.

Work together to increase and diversify the gene pool while refining the desired traits within it.

To come up with things that create a desire to learn about the lil birds and coturnix in general.

I'm thinking maybe we can eventually start grading them by "nickel-weight" instead of "penny-weight"?

First Quiz: Ya'll know a nickel weighs 5 grams right?

 

[yinepu]

we can also project out, I hated calculus. extrapolate. never extrapolate from a sample...

days old weight (g)
42 280
35 240
28 200
21 160
14 80

lets even break it down further, we should be able to take a chick at any age and weigh it and know how many grams per day it will gain on average.

so, in my experience, they gain almost 2 oz per week from 4-6 weeks, once the girls start laying their energy is transferred to an egg a day.
the bigger they are at 4 weeks, the more % gain per day is more likely.

so here is some Dr. Seuss for ya, goes in hand with "get em as big as you can get em as fast as ya can"

#5 the more they can eat, the bigger they get. the bigger they get, the more they can eat.

we can fill in the blanks of our guideline

days old weight (g)
42 280
41
40
39 260
38
37
36
35 240
34
33
32 220
31
30
29
28 200
27
26
25 180
24
23
22
21 160
20
19
18 120
17
16
15
14 80

#5 the more they can eat, the bigger they get. the bigger they get, the more they can eat.

I weighed a few of mine from this last batch of bought eggs.. the eggs were advertised as "jumbo browns".. at 18 days the heaviest is only 104 grams.. and that's with feed available 24/7.. 28% game bird starter

so as you can probably guess I'm really looking forward to the Tatankas!