tell me everything you know about coccicodios

to start with i am pretty sure i spelled that wrong but, i am sure yall know what i am talking about. ok i have never delt with this before so i need alot of advice. to start with i am starting the chicks on corrid tonight. i have 4 little ones. only one so far is sick it has bloody poop. around 5 to 6 weeks not for sure. i got them from an individual. ok here i go............i know its contageous to the other chicks, what about my 2 big girls, will they catch it? do i need to clean everything? if so with what? what about the little ones being in my house? still somewhat chilly here in alabama right now but supposed to warm back up. can they be in the yard and poop? what all should i do? LAY IT ON ME!
So, here's a veterinarian's perspective. Coccidia is a protozoan that basically interferes with normal digestion and absorption of nutrients from the intestinal tract. Because of the interference, that is why you get the loose, potentially bloody, diarrhea. And, the protozoan themselves can attract water from the body into the intestinal tract to add to the looseness, usually from their own waste products of their metabolism. They are spread via a fecal-oral route. Most medications do not kill the organism, only suppress them enough for the individuals own immune system to take over dealing with the infection. Hence the term "coccidiostat". Depending on the stress level and nutritional status of the chicks, the infection can grab hold pretty strong and seem to occur overnight. Adults can harbor the organism, but because of a competent and mature immune system, usually deal with it naturally. The fact that youngsters get it and they haven't developed that immune system, leads to more problems with them. Then you add stress, which further suppresses the immune system, and the recipe for disaster is in place. All you can do is keep stress to a minimum and use coccidiostats that you can get from where you can. Good biosecurity measures of isolation and sanitizing go a long way to prevent spread. Always, if you have sick ones, they should be dealt with last. If you treat and feed them first, you have the potential to spread the organism to the rest of the chicks in your flock. Wash, wash, wash your hands after handling them. Each species has their own coccidia, but there can be zoonotic potential in some and you don't want to take that chance of picking it up yourself. Doc
 
So, here's a veterinarian's perspective. Coccidia is a protozoan that basically interferes with normal digestion and absorption of nutrients from the intestinal tract. Because of the interference, that is why you get the loose, potentially bloody, diarrhea. And, the protozoan themselves can attract water from the body into the intestinal tract to add to the looseness, usually from their own waste products of their metabolism. They are spread via a fecal-oral route.
Most medications do not kill the organism, only suppress them enough for the individuals own immune system to take over dealing with the infection. Hence the term "coccidiostat". Depending on the stress level and nutritional status of the chicks, the infection can grab hold pretty strong and seem to occur overnight. Adults can harbor the organism, but because of a competent and mature immune system, usually deal with it naturally. The fact that youngsters get it and they haven't developed that immune system, leads to more problems with them. Then you add stress, which further suppresses the immune system, and the recipe for disaster is in place. All you can do is keep stress to a minimum and use coccidiostats that you can get from where you can. Good biosecurity measures of isolation and sanitizing go a long way to prevent spread. Always, if you have sick ones, they should be dealt with last. If you treat and feed them first, you have the potential to spread the organism to the rest of the chicks in your flock. Wash, wash, wash your hands after handling them. Each species has their own coccidia, but there can be zoonotic potential in some and you don't want to take that chance of picking it up yourself.
Doc


Is it possible that SOME chicks may not get it, as they may have built up immunity more so than others?
As all of my chicks have been in the same place, some of them have come down sick and died very quickly.... but others seem robust, greedy, pigging out, running around, being completely their usual little chick selfs. So I'm wondering if maybe its not going to effect them for whatever reason?
 
i have the liquid, is that different doses with the powder? i put 1 tsp to one gallon. is that correct for liquid? also they are in a big storage tub in my house is that ok? and do i need to santitize it everytime they poop? oh yeah and is it ok for them to still go out in the yard? thanks so much i have never had this before and i am a little freaked out by it. here is a pic i took this morning
The dosage is 2 teaspoons per gallon of water...10ml/cc's. The extra 1/2ml/cc wont hurt them.
 
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Okay I had a red poop from one of my chicks today but not bloody like that...... Is this Cocci too??? I think probably right?? The bird is fine... not lethargic, not ruffled feathers ... nothing ....

Should I start her on Corid?

 
As far as I know, Coccidia in chickens is not zoonotic. When one of my chicks was sick with it I did research to make sure my dogs wouldn't get it and pretty much everything I read said it's species specific. So even dogs can't get it from chickens, humans can't get it from an animal, etc.
 
Because of the combination of factors involved, some chicks will do better than others, some may not be infected or deal with it and not have issues. Just depends on what is going on. Best way to diagnose coccidia is to do a fecal flotation and microscopic exam. Works in dogs, cats, chickens, turtles and most of the others species I treat. Basic parasitology. Although, not a harm in empirically trying Corid or one of the other meds out there. If dosed right, not really any harm to the chickies!

Zoonosis was mentioned just to drive home the point about biosecurity and hygeine. There really isn't a concern for immunocompetent people, dogs, cats, etc. Sorry if it put a scare out there. Or maybe not, ;)

Doc
 
its ok i freak out easy anyway. i just have never dealt with this before and and i wanted to know all there was needed to know all the way to their housing to my family. the little chicks are pretty active, not as active as they usually are and they are drinking a ton. i dont know if they are tird or not feeling well. how can you tell the difference. they dont have blood in everytime they poop but its so watery theysoak their news paper i use for bedding. i am constantly having to reload newspaper. i really dont want them laying in it or standing in it. during the night i cant help it though.
 
Great... came out this morning to find 3 of my Welshsummer chicks dead too, even though they've been kept seperate and when I checked on them last night, they were fine!!!!!!!!
7 chicks dead in 3 days, and I can't get Corid or anything like it unless I do a $48 vet visit (per animal that goes with me) plus of course, they charge for taking blood samples and all sorts of crap, before adding the cost of the medication to it overall. God **** Coccidiosis putting me up the pooper financially now... I can't afford to take them to the vet and go through all of this.
Heartbroken by this, I've never dealt with it before and am just in tears, because I don't have the money to do anything about it. I've been financially screwed for a few weeks now, this was supposed to help me supplement my income, but instead, I am forced to sit and watch them die, or help them along the way rather than letting them die over the course of the day.
:'(
 

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