i gave in and pulled one to candle and saw no movement.. checked a few more.. ditto... so i pulled them out and popped the aircell area of all of them.... the ones that had pipped into the aircell were shrinkwrapped, but the ones who hadn;t pipped had a LOT of liquid inside the membrane... kinda wierd... anyone have anyideas?? i'm totally blaming the homemade incubator for bad humidity and temps... i might get a new lid that isn't as "vented" as this one was.. and see if i can get it stable.. if not i'll pitch the whole thing... lol... not gonna mess with it anymore.. so no more staggered hatching for me until i get another good bator...