The ‘I’ve Got The COVID Shot Club’!

[KarynVA]

If covid deaths are because of sedentary or other lifestyle factors, why did at least 271 children (including babies, who are sedentary, I'll grant you that) die from it in the US? And many more were hospitalized or severely ill.

Although relatively few children die of covid-19, “it’s not fair to say it’s a benign disease among children,” said Sean O’Leary, an immunization researcher at Children’s Hospital Colorado and vice chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics committee on infectious diseases. “For every one of these deaths, quite a few kids spend a long time in ICUs and suffer lingering effects.”

 

[Chookchicken]

If covid deaths are because of sedentary or other lifestyle factors, why did at least 271 children (including babies, who are sedentary, I'll grant you that) die from it in the US? And many more were hospitalized or severely ill.

Although relatively few children die of covid-19, “it’s not fair to say it’s a benign disease among children,” said Sean O’Leary, an immunization researcher at Children’s Hospital Colorado and vice chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics committee on infectious diseases. “For every one of these deaths, quite a few kids spend a long time in ICUs and suffer lingering effects.”

Exactly!

 

[Disheygirl]

I didn't say covid was unaffected. Once we were told it was real and that we needed to take action to limit transmission the curve was flattened. We had spikes because the same people you decry for being too stupid to eat healthy are also too stupid to wash their hands or stay home when asked to. I know there were people in my community who were sick and still weren't quarantining. I don't believe yours is different. There was a vaccine for the flu and the protocols that limited the spread of covid were even more effective on the flu, probably because we know more about the flu and we're using what limits transmission of the flu to limit the spread of covid. .

"If the flu can’t get you at six feet apart with a mask, neither can COVID.". Really? You know this how? Are you one of those people who thinks covid is just the flu?

I think you're wrong about what blame the government has, but that's beside the point. When you're in the middle of a pandemic it's a bit late to try more education on healthy eating, exercise, and the risks of smoking. Especially too late when almost no one has listened in the last fifty years. And it's not practical to just write people off because you think they're unhealthy and that they are all to blame for their health issues. You're mad that the government resorted to a solution that depended on the pharmacy industry? What would you suggest instead? Green tea? Cauliflower crust fat free non-dairy cheese pizza? Mayba a mass gathering with motivational speakers? Care to elaborate on what kind of medical professional you are?

Well, my family and I had COVID - including my 90 year old grandmother - and it wasn’t as bad as the flu. Do you understand statistics? And that the overwhelming majority of people who contract COVID have symptoms no worse than the flu? And we all got it not because of stupidity - not because we weren’t washing our hands, but because one is a first responder Who caught it on the job. But who cares? Should I be mad at anyone who has ever passed on a virus? It was a week of feeling sick - two days off of (my remote) work. Grandma had some body aches. Step son had a one-day fever. Stop playing into the media’s fearmongering where every single person who gets it is on their death bed. Maybe this will help for perspective - shutting down the world for this? Absurd. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMevbDCuN/

Diet, exercise, vitamins. It’s not that difficult. Nothing extreme - no fad diets needed. It’s called making health a priority. Because for as nuts as people have gone over COVID, the real killer is obesity and obesity-related disease, but we all seem to want to ignore that. Just medicate the population because we’re too lazy.

 

[Disheygirl]

The reason there were no spikes when it came to the flu is because if no one had the flu, no one could spread it. You kinda answered your own question, the flu was down, meaning not very many people had it, meaning no one could spread it. The spikes were around events that people would gather round their families. I don’t think that bad lifestyles helped their chance of survival, but that doesn’t mean people who had good lifestyles didn’t die. People with no medical conditions died. People who ate the healthiest they could, and were extremely active, still died. Even if they had the bad lifestyle, do they really deserve to die just because you don’t want to follow the rules and listen? Even people who make it through Covid-19 can experience the long haul side effects. We also don’t know how it can effect children, teens, and young adults as they age. You say all these things now, but if you were to ever get sick and have to go to the hospital, you wouldn’t want people saying it’s because you have a bad lifestyle. In the end you believe what you want. Just please think about the other peoples life’s that you could be talking about.

That makes zero sense. How could nobody have the flu? If COVID was being passed around, the flu would be too. One virus doesn’t take over for another. They were counting influenza and pneumonia as COVID - it is on the CDC website. Fact.

Honest question - do you go around slapping junk food out of people’s hands to save them? If you don’t bring that same energy - “thinking of others” or “saving lives” to everyday life, then why COVID? Because heart disease kills far more people than COVID...if you want to save lives, that’s where you should spend your energy.

 

[Disheygirl]

"But why are we concerned with transmission? We should be concerned with mortality rates"

Well, I cannot speak for anyone else, but I, personally, am concerned about transmission because it is still not known the entire impact of having the virus. Even some of those who experienced mild cases are having 'long haul' symptoms: brain fog, ongoing loss or changes of taste and smell; organ damage.

Even if I get covid and experience no symptoms (feel "great"), there is no guarantee my body won't suffer some unknown impacts of this new virus. I don't want to take that chance, for me, for my family, or my neighbors and community.

That can be said about any virus, influenza strains too. I am all for live and let live, and if you want to live in fear, thats your choice. Not mine.

 

[Disheygirl]

If covid deaths are because of sedentary or other lifestyle factors, why did at least 271 children (including babies, who are sedentary, I'll grant you that) die from it in the US? And many more were hospitalized or severely ill.

Although relatively few children die of covid-19, “it’s not fair to say it’s a benign disease among children,” said Sean O’Leary, an immunization researcher at Children’s Hospital Colorado and vice chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics committee on infectious diseases. “For every one of these deaths, quite a few kids spend a long time in ICUs and suffer lingering effects.”

Do you understand statistics? Honestly. I said the overwhelming majority.

More kids died in drowning accidents. More people under 50 die from heatstroke than COVID. Risk models are built on statistics, not raw numbers.

 

[KarynVA]

Dishey, are you anti-vax overall or just for covid? Do you think people should just take vitamins and get more sunshine to avoid polio or smallpox or measles ....?

 

[Chookchicken]

Well, my family and I had COVID - including my 90 year old grandmother - and it wasn’t as bad as the flu. Do you understand statistics? And that the overwhelming majority of people who contract COVID have symptoms no worse than the flu? And we all got it not because of stupidity - not because we weren’t washing our hands, but because one is a first responder Who caught it on the job. But who cares? Should I be mad at anyone who has ever passed on a virus? It was a week of feeling sick - two days off of (my remote) work. Grandma had some body aches. Step son had a one-day fever. Stop playing into the media’s fearmongering where every single person who gets it is on their death bed. Maybe this will help for perspective - shutting down the world for this? Absurd. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMevbDCuN/

Diet, exercise, vitamins. It’s not that difficult. Nothing extreme - no fad diets needed. It’s called making health a priority. Because for as nuts as people have gone over COVID, the real killer is obesity and obesity-related disease, but we all seem to want to ignore that. Just medicate the population because we’re too lazy.

Well congratulations on having good genetics. How sick you get can also depend on your genes. If you did research then you should know that it isn’t a lifestyle thing, it’s a blood and genes thing.

That makes zero sense. How could nobody have the flu? If COVID was being passed around, the flu would be too. One virus doesn’t take over for another. They were counting influenza and pneumonia as COVID - it is on the CDC website. Fact.

Honest question - do you go around slapping junk food out of people’s hands to save them? If you don’t bring that same energy - “thinking of others” or “saving lives” to everyday life, then why COVID? Because heart disease kills far more people than COVID...if you want to save lives, that’s where you should spend your energy.

I accidentally wrote no one, but If you’d read further you’d see that I said “less people had flu”. Also the lockdown didn’t start until the start of the flu season meaning less people had it to start with.

“do you go around slapping junk food out of people’s hands to save them?”
No because:
1. That’s rude
2. People can choose what they want to do with their bodies (unless it’s putting others life’s at risk)
3. This pandemic as nothing to do with people having a bad lifestyle

If you don’t bring that same energy - “thinking of others” or “saving lives” to everyday life, then why COVID?
It’s a pandemic. Everyone is at risk of long haul side effects and even death. You doing whatever you want means that you are putting everyone around you life’s at risk. You may have made it through on one occasion, that doesn’t mean you won’t necessarily suffer the affects of Covid-19 the next time you catch it. That’s right you can catch COVID more then once, believe it or not.

“Because heart disease kills far more people than COVID...if you want to save lives, that’s where you should spend your energy”

Well yes, but also no. Until the world is out of the pandemic then I’m going to spend my energy on the bigger problem. As I said before I think people should be able to spend their life the way they want it, unless of course they’re putting others life’s at risk (example: having ‘freedom’ in the middle of a pandemic where thousands of people are losing their lives everyday in your country). I don’t think you can control others lifestyles. Control your own, and don’t worry about others, you never know what they may be going through. Also why do you think that at the end of a year and half long pandemic people will all of a sudden be motivated to eat better? It’s takes motivation to get that stuff to work. People have been trying for years and I don’t know why things would start changing now.

Do you understand statistics? Honestly. I said the overwhelming majority.

More kids died in drowning accidents. More people under 50 die from heatstroke than COVID. Risk models are built on statistics, not raw numbers.

Do you understand how to compare statistics? Was all that just in the last year? Did you realise that the risk of children drowning in pools last year was higher because the public pools were closed and more people had un-supervised pools? Also wasn’t there like a FIRE or something happening last year?

I’m not here to change your mind about the pandemic. I’m here to stop other people from thinking that most of this stuff is true

 

[KarynVA]

“Because heart disease kills far more people than COVID...if you want to save lives, that’s where you should spend your energy”

Heart disease isn't infectious. If someone else, by being in denial about the seriousness of this novel virus can endanger my family because they are infected but asymptomatic, I am concerned about that.

That's not "living in fear," that's being smart and realistic.

 

[Disheygirl]

Dishey, are you anti-vax overall or just for covid? Do you think people should just take vitamins and get more sunshine to avoid polio or smallpox or measles ....?

Absolutely not anti-vax. I went To India and the Philippines - I’ve been vaccinated against life at this point.

But I’m not taking an untested vaccine when my natural immunity is - so far - better than vaccine immunity.

Have you read the peer reviewed papers on vitamin deficiency and COVID? Why did the feds pull NAC from OTC recently? I’m not saying diet, exercise, and vitamins is a cure-all for COVID, but I’m saying it gives your body a fighting chance to use its immune system. If you aren’t obese, your chances of death drop off a cliff.