The African and Chinese goose thread!!

[NathanZee]

Telling you to back off!

My gander doesnt do that. He has found its better to respect than to attack! It started learning when he started biting my siblings at a young age.

Yep he is challenging your authority as flock leader. When he finally gets the courage to attack its time for "gander training"! Be happy to explain how to do it if you'd like.

Oh thanks guys! That's kind of what I figured, but I wasn't sure if he thought we were potential mates or enemies. He is very very friendly and loves to follow us around, and forage at our feet. He has never bit anyone except for the chewing at my boots and pants, but I'm sure that isn't aggression, my female does that too. When he attacks how will he do it? Bite and flail his wings? I would be thankful for any information!

 

[jwlpoultry]

[CONTENTEMBED=/t/533413/the-african-and-chinese-goose-thread/2400#post_16429384 layout=inline]Well, my gander is just starting to act like a gander! He hasn't payed any special attention to his mate, but he is holding his head really high and arching his neck! Also, he walks sideways towards me and puts his head right next to the ground, then kind of shakes it. What does that mean?[/CONTENTEMBED]

Yep he is challenging your authority as flock leader. When he finally gets the courage to attack its time for "gander training"! Be happy to explain how to do it if you'd like.

I need help do I have African or Brown Chinese????

I am leaning toward brown chinese, how old? They may be "hatchery african" which are truly a cross of African and chinese. And yes keep the white in with the chinese flock, they will be happier because the "speech" is a bit different than other breeds. All my other goose breeds have a different sound and speech than my chinese do. Think you have 2 pairs, males and females BTW, congrats! Here is my Brown Chinese and White Chinese Group shot, may be a few Embden in there lol

The man I got them from bought them as a hatchery assortment. This will be their 2nd year laying he said both females sat last year but lost eggs due to a flood. I will definetly put my white with the brown thanks for all the help!

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

Quote: It will be after breeding begins, his hormones will be raging. The "bluffing" he is doing now will suddenly become an attack. Some flog and bite, others bite and run. Some never actually follow through, and some do. When the day comes, quickly grab his neck just below the head with one hand, other arm scoop around the body FAST and grab the feet. You have 2 choices next, both work fine.
"Pinning" is the natural way geese show dominance within the flock. You will need to pin him down or restrain him physically. Either way works, but pinning is the natural way for geese.
Either:1. pick him up with the hold on him you have and take him for a walk around his flock!
OR: 2. Pin him to the ground, and hold him down, not so tight you are harming him, of course.
Once he stops struggling.. usually a few minutes let him go. Some ganders may come at you again! Repeat. I have never rehomed a gander for aggression, and this is the reason why. I teach them I am the flock leader. Once they learn it, it will rarely if ever be a problem with him again.

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

The man I got them from bought them as a hatchery assortment. This will be their 2nd year laying he said both females sat last year but lost eggs due to a flood. I will definetly put my white with the brown thanks for all the help!

Yes, absolutely Chinese then. African are much larger birds at that age, heavier bodied. You're welcome!

 

[NathanZee]

Telling you to back off!

My gander doesnt do that. He has found its better to respect than to attack! It started learning when he started biting my siblings at a young age.

Yep he is challenging your authority as flock leader. When he finally gets the courage to attack its time for "gander training"! Be happy to explain how to do it if you'd like.

I am leaning toward brown chinese, how old? They may be "hatchery african" which are truly a cross of African and chinese. And yes keep the white in with the chinese flock, they will be happier because the "speech" is a bit different than other breeds. All my other goose breeds have a different sound and speech than my chinese do. Think you have 2 pairs, males and females BTW, congrats!
Here is my Brown Chinese and White Chinese



Group shot, may be a few Embden in there lol

It will be after breeding begins, his hormones will be raging. The "bluffing" he is doing now will suddenly become an attack. Some flog and bite, others bite and run. Some never actually follow through, and some do. When the day comes, quickly grab his neck just below the head with one hand, other arm scoop around the body FAST and grab the feet. You have 2 choices next, both work fine.
"Pinning" is the natural way geese show dominance within the flock. You will need to pin him down or restrain him physically. Either way works, but pinning is the natural way for geese.
Either:1. pick him up with the hold on him you have and take him for a walk around his flock!
OR: 2. Pin him to the ground, and hold him down, not so tight you are harming him, of course.
Once he stops struggling.. usually a few minutes let him go. Some ganders may come at you again! Repeat. I have never rehomed a gander for aggression, and this is the reason why. I teach them I am the flock leader. Once they learn it, it will rarely if ever be a problem with him again.

Thank you very much! I will do that when he attacks. How many times does it usually take to teach him? Also, would this work on a runner duck? I have one that constantly follows me around, hanging on to my shoes or pants, just dragging by his bill. Its more annoying than painful, but I would like to make him stop.

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

Quote: Absolutely! I have used it on roosters, turkeys, you name it. LOL even goats!

 

[NathanZee]

Absolutely! I have used it on roosters, turkeys, you name it. LOL even goats!

Then I'll try it! I have had to teach some roosters to submit, but I didn't expect a drake to be aggressive.

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

Quote: I keep a lot of different species of waterfowl and poultry. Usually have a few extra boys of each breed/species. I have learned if there's only 1 boy in that species they can be human aggressive. If theres another fella for that species they won't waste time challenging me.

 

[NathanZee]

I keep a lot of different species of waterfowl and poultry. Usually have a few extra boys of each breed/species. I have learned if there's only 1 boy in that species they can be human aggressive. If theres another fella for that species they won't waste time challenging me.

I'm sure that is usually the case, but I do have several other drakes he could (and does) fight with. I think he has some sort of mental disorder or something.

 

[Carrosaur]

I'm sure that is usually the case, but I do have several other drakes he could (and does) fight with. I think he has some sort of mental disorder or something. :/

Nope. That's just how some geese are. Geese really don't "like" any other species than their own, they will and do fight with other species all the time