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Sexing Ayam Cemanis...help

Online research with regards to this topic is either difficult to find or nonexistent. Sexing of some breeds can be determined by examining wing feathers & I believe the sex of all breeds can be determined by examining genitalia. Although the later might be necessary for some, I find it invasive & a method I would rather avoid if a less invasive alternative exists.

Even though a lot has been said that it is not likely to determine sex of this breed at early stages of development, my theory is the sex of this breed can be determined on Comb Size regardless of age. I base this on the size & mass of the roos comb as compared to other breeds & the obvious well established combs of even day old chicks. Certainly there has to be recognizable differences to include very early stages of development.

My 6 chicks were born April 6th of this year. Yesterday was their first week anniversary. Hopefully these photos will give everyone a sense of what their combs look like in person. Each one has been banned so I can keep accurate records throughout their development. The color of their band is indicated on the photo along with corresponding numbers. I will also include what I perceive to be male & female.

I realize this goes against the grain & I did have difficulty distinguishing between 2 (3 & 4) using this method but I believe at the very least all might agree #5 shows definate signs of a male comb.
 

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Sexing Ayam Cemanis...help

Online research with regards to this topic is either difficult to find or nonexistent. Sexing of some breeds can be determined by examining wing feathers & I believe the sex of all breeds can be determined by examining genitalia. Although the later might be necessary for some, I find it invasive & a method I would rather avoid if a less invasive alternative exists.

Even though a lot has been said that it is not likely to determine sex of this breed at early stages of development, my theory is the sex of this breed can be determined on Comb Size regardless of age. I base this on the size & mass of the roos comb as compared to other breeds & the obvious well established combs of even day old chicks. Certainly there has to be recognizable differences to include very early stages of development.

My 6 chicks were born April 6th of this year. Yesterday was their first week anniversary. Hopefully these photos will give everyone a sense of what their combs look like in person. Each one has been banned so I can keep accurate records throughout their development. The color of their band is indicated on the photo along with corresponding numbers. I will also include what I perceive to be male & female.

I realize this goes against the grain & I did have difficulty distinguishing between 2 using this method but I believe at the very least all might agree #5 shows definate signs of a male comb.
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Sexing Ayam Cemanis...help

Online research with regards to this topic is either difficult to find or nonexistent. Sexing of some breeds can be determined by examining wing feathers & I believe the sex of all breeds can be determined by examining genitalia. Although the later might be necessary for some, I find it invasive & a method I would rather avoid if a less invasive alternative exists.

Even though a lot has been said that it is not likely to determine sex of this breed at early stages of development, my theory is the sex of this breed can be determined on Comb Size regardless of age. I base this on the size & mass of the roos comb as compared to other breeds & the obvious well established combs of even day old chicks. Certainly there has to be recognizable differences to include very early stages of development.

My 6 chicks were born April 6th of this year. Yesterday was their first week anniversary. Hopefully these photos will give everyone a sense of what their combs look like in person. Each one has been banned so I can keep accurate records throughout their development. The color of their band is indicated on the photo along with corresponding numbers. I will also include what I perceive to be male & female.

I realize this goes against the grain & I did have difficulty distinguishing between 2 (3 & 4) using this method but I believe at the very least all might agree #5 shows definate signs of a male comb.


You can sex most of the obvious cockerels by 4-6 weeks based on combs, but many cockerels are slow developers... seen many that don't become obvious until they start their adult molts...
 
You can sex most of the obvious cockerels by 4-6 weeks based on combs, but many cockerels are slow developers... seen many that don't become obvious until they start their adult molts...

This has been my experience as well. I've never been able to tell the genders on any as young as a week old. Most I can tell by four to six weeks, and then some are slow developers and take even longer.
 
Thank you Pyxis.

I think I will continue to photograph each one every week until gender is obvious. If nothing else, maybe I will be able to identify some clues for early detection.
 

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