The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

[sharkman]

I found a Snake hanging out in my outdoor brewder this morning!

He had eaten on of my 3 week old chicks!

The chick was a 3 week old phesant silkie bantam that we had "learning hatched"
and actually kept special to add to our Bantam vanity collection.



The snake was a black snake who was waiting around long enough to digest at bit more,
so he could eat another one of my Copper Black Maran Chicks!

I dragged him by the neck out of the rafters with my Blacksmith Tongs
and whacked off his head with a small wood hatchet...

Bye bye Mr. Snake!

So, to keep me from doing it again.... which I will... Happily!

Do you guys have any information to ward off the next snake,
before he makes the mistake of comiting the captal offense of attacking my pretty birds....

Maybe you should consider protecting your young small birds from preditors especialy benificial ones like this. It looks like a black rat snake and they eat entire nests of rats as well as rattle snakes. For this snake to get this size it would have eaten 3 or 4 hundred rats on your farm! He probobly expected a thank you!!! LOL. It would be ironic if you or any of your birds get sick from the many diseases rats spread or taint your birds food. You can work with nature or against it.

 

[Phage]

1/2 inch hardware cloth is great for keeping brooders (or coops in general) snake proof.

 

[bluenkimchi]

Pics as promised

How does this now 4 month old male compare to your guy's birds?







I still haven't made my decision as what to do with it yet and time is limited

I've decided to not sell my lone Cemani roo and got him a female and take them both with me, when I move. Think this pullet will be a good start? BTW she isn't a cemani, but Jet black Hmong pullet

. I didn't take an up close pic of her skin color, but she might even be a bit darker than his skin tone? She is really nice and so far combs/wattles is looking great, though she is still lacking the very dark mouth/tongue, she has a darker moth than him, so would selective breeding, eventually result in a jet black everything somewhere along the line? Of course when and if I do ever sell any, they wouldn't be called Ayam cemani. I'll give them some other name that relates to how they look or maybe just a black Hmong Chicken??

 

[bluenkimchi]

Would my above lone roo from Mike's line of Cemani and this Hmong pullet be a good start? They won't be called Ayam Cemani, if/when I decided to sell some of their offspring in the future.

What do you guys think of her?

 

[sharkman]

Would my above lone roo from Mike's line of Cemani and this Hmong pullet be a good start? They won't be called Ayam Cemani, if/when I decided to sell some of their offspring in the future.

What do you guys think of her?

Where do you live blue? Are black FM hmongs common there? I am looking for a dark black FM hmong roo with good FM in the comb.

 

[bluenkimchi]

Where do you live blue? Are black FM hmongs common there? I am looking for a dark black FM hmong roo with good FM in the comb.

I'm from Fresno, CA, but soon moving to WI and taking my two birds. As for are they common, No, very rare. They may even be more rare than the Cemani? Not documented by any professional as far as i'm aware of. There was a little article about them on this forum, but they show the Thai, Shamo, oriental fowl type of body as Hmong Chicken. That is not correct, those FM Thai looking birds are a rare breed from Belgium and not true Hmong Chicken. Only those two set of pictures toward the bottom of the article showing birds with single combs are true Hmong Chicken. https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/hmong-chickens-or-qaib-hmoob

And most have a variation of redness to their combs like my pair from pg 29, though if you are lucky and good at breeding by being selective/culling out unwanted traits. Very dark combs/wattles birds like my pullet above will appear every now and then.

Since they are rare, you would have to know someone who knows someone, to be able to obtain this type of Hmong Chickens. Though when mine are ready to breed and I breed out some of the flaws of that young pair above, i'll be happy to let you know what I have of their offspring

 

[Pyxis]

Well, I may be out of this breed until the price goes down. When I walked into my workshop today to check on everyone, my two pullets were dead. Looks like it was a rat. I am devastated. I have one other one that may be a pullet and that I thought for sure was, but suddenly there is some comb and wattle development. So I may have three roosters and no hens. I am so upset.

 

[Randy2010]

I really hate to hear that about your birds.

 

[Pyxis]

Thanks. I saw that you were selling eggs on eBay. If I had any way of affording them I'd go for them, but it looks like unless I get lucky and my "pullet" is a pullet I'm out for a couple years till the price goes back down.

 

[Chickengirl1304]

Would my above lone roo from Mike's line of Cemani and this Hmong pullet be a good start? They won't be called Ayam Cemani, if/when I decided to sell some of their offspring in the future. What do you guys think of her?

I love the Hmong chickens. Here's a pullet and a cockerel of mine. My only concern with breeding them to cemani, is if the males would have the coloring. Maybe if you only kept pullets and culled the cockerels? Or do not all Hmong Roos have color?