The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

[MisfitMarie]

Because this is what you want to see when you leave feedback. What a peice of work.

ayamcemani
Today at 11:59 am​

Hi, unfortunately since you decided to leave me negative feedback, I will be leaving you negative feedback and ruining your account here. I will also be having multiple people and friends on this website leave you negative feedback....
You can take back the negative feedback you left on my page or your account will be ruined with tons of negative feedback....

Thanks

Toplongtailfowl
Today at 12:07 pm​

Hello, my friend showed me that you left them negative feedback claiming their birds are not pure and scaring their buyers away. Please take that off immediately or I will also give you negative feedback to see how you like it. He has good cemani and you need to take that off immediately. That will not be tolerated.​

I just can't get over that... Let's assume for a second that there were no issues with the eggs/chicks whatsoever. Those responses are completely unprofessional, childish, and absolutely ridiculous.... not to mention, quite DEFENSIVE. I also agree that this user has multiple accounts.

I hatched that user's chicks as well. And I would consider them TERRIBLE quality: white feet/legs, white chests, white wing tips, pink mouths, etc. FAR from a "good cemani". These chicks look more like Black Copper Maran chicks than anything else! Unfortunately, by the time I saw what was hatching out of my first ordered clutch, I had already bought THREE orders of eggs! The third, and last, is due to hatch in FIVE days!

I sell used items and clothes over Ebay to supplement my college tuition costs. There's been a few times where I've gotten too busy between full-time work and full-time school to ship an item off that had been ordered without me noticing. When I only have a couple listings up that haven't sold for months, I tend to forget about them. Well, I've received negative feedback for those transactions as I WELL DESERVED! I would NEVER threaten or try to BLACKMAIL a buyer, EVEN if I felt I was right. That is just... AMAZING TO ME! Even when I've fully refunded their money, profusely apologized, shipped the item off ANYWAY (for free), and they failed to ever remove negative feedback, I've still kept my mouth shut and moved on!

That message exchange is appalling. Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[misfitmorgan]

Well, that about proves he has two accounts. You also can't blackmail people with feedback. Report him to the mods for that. You can actually report a private message from the messages page.

I did!!

How can friends leave a negative feedback if they have never done business with you???? Do a feedback through his account?

What a jerk!

You can leave feedback for anyone who has a classified ad up actually. His and his "friends" threats hold no weight cause it isnt possible to leave feedback on my page without me having an ad up, but he doesnt know that it seems. My take is their only on here to try to peddle their hybrids and make money so dont pay attention to how the system works.


Ironicly enough Longtailfowls is called out by David Rogers here ---> http://www.onagadori.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1533 For their lies and using his name to sells junk birds.

Also Onagadori dont exist in the US yet Longtails has an ad up for them and a matching ebay one. Atleast that according to David Rogers and Toni Marie http://www.ultimatefowl.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=2369

They have no Onagadori...only Phoenix.

 

[boykin2010]

The moderators should be all over that... WOW

 

[birdman55]

unfortunately if the mods shut him down on his two accounts he will just make another one...I feel bad for people that have bought from him...like forest gump says "life is like a box of chocolates you never know what your gunna get..."that's so true with birds when you buy them you never know...I got fooled once by a breeder...man he got me a good one...not the cemanis tho...that will never happen again..thats for sure..glad that it gets out there about certain things then it slows the rip off rate

 

[BigBirdJano]

He is beautiful!

 

[MisfitMarie]

unfortunately if the mods shut him down on his two accounts he will just make another one...I feel bad for people that have bought from him...like forest gump says "life is like a box of chocolates you never know what your gunna get..."that's so true with birds when you buy them you never know...I got fooled once by a breeder...man he got me a good one...not the cemanis tho...that will never happen again..thats for sure..glad that it gets out there about certain things then it slows the rip off rate

You're right. It's a terrible shame. I agree with what you said, about spreading the word and slowing the rip-off rate. I hope we can all do that. The whole situation is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[misfitmorgan]

The moderators should be all over that... WOW

i havnt heard anything back from the mods yet. i also didnt reply to the messages.

 

[Pyxis]

I also take it he didn't take into account the fact that anything he said could be posted around. Even if he had good quality chicks, after seeing that who would want to buy from him? Not me. Just the idea that he would act like that over negative feedback is a big red flag about how transactions would be with him. Not to mention he asks people to send him money as a gift on Paypal. By the way, if anyone did that, and I think I read that at least one of you got swindled that way, that's against Paypal's TOS. You can report someone for that, and they can lose their Paypal account, so you might want to go ahead and do that.

 

[misfitmorgan]

I also take it he didn't take into account the fact that anything he said could be posted around. Even if he had good quality chicks, after seeing that who would want to buy from him? Not me. Just the idea that he would act like that over negative feedback is a big red flag about how transactions would be with him. Not to mention he asks people to send him money as a gift on Paypal. By the way, if anyone did that, and I think I read that at least one of you got swindled that way, that's against Paypal's TOS. You can report someone for that, and they can lose their Paypal account, so you might want to go ahead and do that.

Well he has two different ebay accounts so i would assume two different paypal accounts....but maybe not i dunno i never tried to link paypal to more then one ebay account.

i've owned two different businesses and i never ever treated someone like that for a bad review....of course that only ever happened once. Good customer service is a must in any business.

 

[Trexroo]

As the devil's advocate, I'd make the suggestion to anyone with a complaint to read the BYC tos.