The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

[nicalandia]

What are the chances that Malays carry the mutation of the Parrot Beak Aseels have for parrot beak?

Not a Chance. This has to be bred for, ever smaller and curved beaks. it's a gradual process if starting from scratch.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Not a Chance. This has to be bred for, ever smaller and curved beaks. it's a gradual process if starting from scratch.

Okay, I had to ask, because that was my second thought on what resulted in the beak type. Thanks for X'ing out mutation off the list.

 

[SelfSufficientMe]

I posted this elsewhere earlier this week and it was suggested to post in this thread:

Although the fact that my chick has five toes may be insignificant, I still find it interesting that it’s the only chick from the entire clutch with the fifth toe. The origin of the eggs are known but it’s unknown if only the one hen laid them and if the one hen mated with more than one rooster. I’m still curious to know which breeds my mixed breed chicks may be. The eggs were found in a neighborhood with stray chickens. The speckled hen was caught sitting on them. Anybody want to take a guess just for the heck of it? I did read that there are few breeds with five toes. The chickens photoed are the ones that hang out in the area where they eggs were found. The chicks hatched from white eggs with possibly a tint of another color but barely noticeable. Maybe very, very, very lightly tinted blue if at all.Thank you. (Photos aren’t uploading- I’ll post and try to add afterwards)

I thought there was one with five toes. Turns out there are two. I know it’s not likely to know what they’re mixed with. I have noticed that one of the chicks is getting spotting on its chest like the rooster in the photos I am going to guess that it will be a rooster. We shall see. They’re 3 1/2 weeks so it’ll be a while longer before so can really tell. I’m hoping the hen will give them the boot before then so that I can rehome them sooner than later.

 

[NatJ]

They’re 3 1/2 weeks so it’ll be a while longer before so can really tell. I’m hoping the hen will give them the boot before then so that I can rehome them sooner than later.

Once they have enough feathers to keep themselves warm, you can rehome them, whether the hen thinks she is done mothering them or not. You don't have to wait for her to "give them the boot."

 

[SelfSufficientMe]

Once they have enough feathers to keep themselves warm, you can rehome them, whether the hen thinks she is done mothering them or not. You don't have to wait for her to "give them the boot."

Thanks. I think I’d feel sorry for her. She panics right now when they’re not in her sight. I’ll just wait out the process.

 

[SelfSufficientMe]

Once they have enough feathers to keep themselves warm, you can rehome them, whether the hen thinks she is done mothering them or not. You don't have to wait for her to "give them the boot."

I’d like to post current pics. Perhaps you’re knowledgeable/experienced enough to help sex them Just for fun. I’ll have to get some photos later.

 

[NatJ]

I’d like to post current pics. Perhaps you’re knowledgeable/experienced enough to help sex them Just for fun. I’ll have to get some photos later.

As long as that "you" refers to backyardchickens members in general, it may be true.
There are a number of people that are much better than I am at sexing chicks from photos.

 

[SourRoses]

If I bred Mottled (black) Ameraucana to my Isabel Ameraucana, and after crossing back again to isolate Lavender, could I get Mottled Isabels? I've seen Mottled Lavender and Laced Isabels in Orpingtons. Just wondering if the (Wheaten based) Isabel would interfere with mottling. This might be a dumb question, oh well

 

[NatJ]

If I bred Mottled (black) Ameraucana to my Isabel Ameraucana, and after crossing back again to isolate Lavender, could I get Mottled Isabels? I've seen Mottled Lavender and Laced Isabels in Orpingtons. Just wondering if the (Wheaten based) Isabel would interfere with mottling. This might be a dumb question, oh well

Mottling is recessive, and lavender is recessive.
Yes, you can have both in one chicken.

If you cross your two colors and breed back to the Isabel one, you will not see any with mottling. Some will still carry mottling, but you won't see it. If you breed some of them together, and get lucky (male & female both carried mottling) you can get mottling to show in some of their offspring.

There are various other ways to collect all the recessives into one bird, too.
The way that can do it in the fewest years: cross the parent colors, then breed offspring to each other and hatch large numbers of chicks. I think about 1 in 64 should have Isabel, mottling, and lavender. So if you hatch several hundred chicks, you should get a handful of "right" ones to breed from, and eat a lot of fried chicken from the others. (For sorting through hundreds of chicks in that case: 3/4 of them would show black or other bright colors rather than lavender or diluted colors, and could be sold or culled at hatch. 3/4 of the remaining ones would show solid lavender rather than isabella, and could probably be identified at a fairly early age for selling or culling. By this point you're down to 1/16 of the original chicks, and may have to raise them for a while to identify the 1/4 that will show mottling.)

There are ways to do it with smaller numbers, if you are willing to take more years/generations to do it.

 

[nicalandia]

If I bred Mottled (black) Ameraucana to my Isabel Ameraucana, and after crossing back again to isolate Lavender, could I get Mottled Isabels? I've seen Mottled Lavender and Laced Isabels in Orpingtons. Just wondering if the (Wheaten based) Isabel would interfere with mottling. This might be a dumb question, oh well

Black Mottled are E/E(Extended Black) and recessive mottled(mo/mo) and Lav+/Lav+

Isabel are eb/eb, Mo+/Mo+ and recessive lavender lav/lav.

The F1 first cross will be E/eb, Mo+/mo, Lav+/lav so basically all black.

F1 x Isabel will produce black chicks, Lavender chicks, Isabel chicks and non lavender partridge chicks. 50% of them will inherit mottling but since it's recessive you will not know.