The BANTAM ORPINGTON Thread

[Don Chandler]

Heres one of my cockerels that I will probably end up selling. Hes black split to choc, but he has more fluff then the chocs that I will be keeping.

How old is that guy? You most have gotten a early start. My choc and crosses are not that big yet. The pullets are laying good. I don't think the English birds take the heat as good as the US birds. I very seldom lose a black to high heat, I did lose 3 blacks this year and I lost 15 or so of the chocs. When it's 115 and no wind all of the birds are in trouble. I can see a problem of ever getting the choc bantam in the std, they will have to be bred to look like our blacks and the fluff will have to go. Mine will look like my blacks, it's just going to take a year or two.

 

[rebel yell]

Good looking bird !!
Now not to get off the sub. or anything but whats the chances of getting choc. colored chicks when you breed a black split to choc. roo. to a black hen, I know you will get some & will they be sex linked ?

 

[jeremy]

Heres one of my cockerels that I will probably end up selling. Hes black split to choc, but he has more fluff then the chocs that I will be keeping.

If you plan on holding on to him until next Spring he can come and live with me.

How much does he weigh?

 

[jeremy]

Good looking bird !!
Now not to get off the sub. or anything but whats the chances of getting choc. colored chicks when you breed a black split to choc. roo. to a black hen, I know you will get some & will they be sex linked ?

Roger, a Black split Choc male X a Black female will result in 25% Black males, 25% Black females, 25% Black split to Choc males and 25% Choc females. The only visibly Choc birds you will get out of that cross will be Choc pullets, so yes they will be sex linked.

The Black males and the Black split Choc males will be identical and you won't be able to tell which males are carrying the gene unless you do test matings.

 

[OSUman]

He is probably an early march hatch, around the same age as the chocs I posted earlier. It could be that it doesn't get that hot up here. I don't think fluff will be hard to get out of the chocs, mine don't have too much to begin with.

How old is that guy? You most have gotten a early start. My choc and crosses are not that big yet. The pullets are laying good. I don't think the English birds take the heat as good as the US birds. I very seldom lose a black to high heat, I did lose 3 blacks this year and I lost 15 or so of the chocs. When it's 115 and no wind all of the birds are in trouble. I can see a problem of ever getting the choc bantam in the std, they will have to be bred to look like our blacks and the fluff will have to go. Mine will look like my blacks, it's just going to take a year or two.

Maybe, just maybe Jeremy. Dont know how much he weighs, but hes probably #3 or less, if I werent putting all my money into feed and school I'd buy a scale LOL.

If you plan on holding on to him until next Spring he can come and live with me.

How much does he weigh?

 

[HenThymes]

I am, and I know of a few others.

 

[Don Chandler]

I don't think the fluff will be a problem, it's getting enough people that wants to show them under the standard. I know Julie has got her fluff under control on her big blacks amd blues. Sometimes they might be a little fluffy, but you see that on US birds that has been in the US for mant many moons.

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

In 2010 someone gave one of our local youth a Black Orpington Bantam male. Sadly, a coon killed him. He was well over the Standard weight and size. (I acquired the two Hortsman hens that survived). I noticed at Crossroads that the Orpington Bantams have become extremely large. Years ago at Shawnee, OK a judge DQ my Buff Orp Bantam male for size. I had won many Best of Breed with him. Even placed a 1st c at the ABA National, beating some of Ralph Brazelton's own birds. Yet the next fall a judge felt he was over size.

Has anyone worked on reducing the size by outcrossing to a Wyandotte Bantam?

We put together a Blue Wyandotte Bantam project pen this last weekend. A Lundgren line Black Wyandotte Bantam male with a Hortsman Blue Orpington Bantam hen and a Hortsman Splash Orpington Bantam hen. The Black male was acquired from Jerry Foley at Crossroads. Though he is over a year old, he is smaller than either hen. Our goal was a Blue Wyandotte. (Still is).

If we kept a Single comb with white footpads, would that be valuable in reducing the size of our Black Orpington Bantams?

What about using a Buff Wyandotte Bantam male on our Buff Orpington bantams? We have a male from Lou Horton line and a male from the Tom Roebuck line.

Here are some of our Wyandotte and Orpington Bantams.

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[HallFamilyFarm]

We shipped our Splash Orpington bantam male to Kentucky last week. A youth had some Black Orpington Bantam hens and lost her only male. We may all want to keep an eye on a youth from Philpot, Kentucky. Could be some tough competition in a year or so.

 

[Don Chandler]

In 2010 someone gave one of our local youth a Black Orpington Bantam male. Sadly, a coon killed him. He was well over the Standard weight and size. (I acquired the two Hortsman hens that survived). I noticed at Crossroads that the Orpington Bantams have become extremely large. Years ago at Shawnee, OK a judge DQ my Buff Orp Bantam male for size. I had won many Best of Breed with him. Even placed a 1st c at the ABA National, beating some of Ralph Brazelton's own birds. Yet the next fall a judge felt he was over size.

Has anyone worked on reducing the size by outcrossing to a Wyandotte Bantam?

We put together a Blue Wyandotte Bantam project pen this last weekend. A Lundgren line Black Wyandotte Bantam male with a Hortsman Blue Orpington Bantam hen and a Hortsman Splash Orpington Bantam hen. The Black male was acquired from Jerry Foley at Crossroads. Though he is over a year old, he is smaller than either hen. Our goal was a Blue Wyandotte. (Still is).

If we kept a Single comb with white footpads, would that be valuable in reducing the size of our Black Orpington Bantams?

What about using a Buff Wyandotte Bantam male on our Buff Orpington bantams? We have a male from Lou Horton line and a male from the Tom Roebuck line.

Here are some of our Wyandotte and Orpington Bantams.

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Jim, it's OK to tell people that I gave the kid a chicken. Big or little I'll show them and they do pretty good. I have showed bantam orps in Oklahoma for alot of years and I have never seen you showing bantams orps. Only other person was Larry Dye and CL and his wife from Texas.

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