*The City of San Diego, California - Chicken and Gamebird / Fowl Law*

Hi RM, thanks for your efforts! I'll check out the new thread you put in.

Sorry if I was confusing regarding showing the weather conditions for collecting decibel data, what I meant was to only note what they actually were at the time the reading was made, so that someone may not call into question factors like high wind, rain etc. that could cause an inaccurate reading. We certainly don't want your husband standing around in bad weather trying to get recordings!

As for the proposed changes, the stage we are at right now is simply to get local planning committees to schedule us in to make an initial public request for them to agree to examine the issue. The actual terms of any changes are going to be hammered out at subsequent meetings and ultimately, hopefully, with the city council, but this will be many, many months from now.

However, my data packet I will present to the planning committee will be 99% supporting research material taken off this site and many others. Since the initial proposed change to the actual code section is going to be debated at future hearings - and the terms likely made more restrictive- I feel we should look at what was actually granted by all the other similar cities that have recently changed their codes, take the more generous of those, and ask for that. And keep it very straightforward and simple. It will be decided at future hearings how much more restrictive they will require the changes be, and I anticipate they will want more restrictions.

The actual change to the code I am proposing is this:

This proposal is to amend Section 42.0709(e) to allow an additional exemption for maintaining up to five hens (no roosters) in a coop/tractor which shall be kept a minimum distance of 20 feet from any structures used for residential purposes, other than the owner of the hens.

This would allow coops to be virtually right up to the property line in most cases. Also, more than five hens on the average 5000 square foot lot would be a bit much, even for us I think. Again, I would expect during the hearing processes that more restrictive distances will be debated and certainly the number of hens.

I am still working on putting the total packet together but I will have it ready by this Tuesday and can provide it to anyone who will be scheduling their own planning committee hearing. Of course the packet will be an evolving document as we get further in the process, we gather more evidence, like the decibel readings, and improvements are made to it by others. Others may also want to alter some of the background and introductory material to better address their local situations.
 
Hi James, welcome aboard!

If your group can proceed in District 2, we will have 1/4 of the city covered!

Since you have both OB and PB residents in support, the next step would be for those residents to request to be placed on the next agendas for their respective planning committees - the Ocean Beach Planning Board and the Pacific Beach Planning Group. The goal is to get these committees to agree to examine the proposal and hopefully make a favorable recommendation to the city council down the road when we have enough planning committees' support. To get scheduled on the next agenda simply call or email the planning chair for those committees. Your initial appearance on the agendas would only be introductory, with the meat of it coming later when they slate it for examination.

I will have a presentation packet ready in the next couple of days, since my initial hearing agenda is upcoming soon on June 8 in Golden Hill. I can make the packet available to anyone, and then improvements and adjustments can be made to it along the way as we gain more support.

Another thing that needs to also happen now is the gathering of signatures in support. I am estimating it will take a few hundred signatures to make an impact on the local planning committees, and thousands of signatures to have any impact on the city council. Take a look at my post a couple days ago regarding getting a booth at the upcoming Old House Fair. That would be a prime opportunity to gain hundreds of signatures now.
 
About the signatures thing... I have the support of a local deli here in San Diego whom I used to work for. The name of the deli is "GoodOnYa" and the owner is very pro urban farming or sustainable living. She created the GoodOnYa Bar and is constantly attending all sorts of awesome events where people of our demographic type frequent. She has told me that if need be she will totally support our cause. She also has a huge social network going on. So I am confident with her help we can deff get the ball roling for signatures all over sd
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Chris,

Thanks for the input. We have already requested a spot on the agenda at the next OB planning board meeting. More importantly, a City representative has agreed to come out to OB tomorrow to inspect the property where the chickens are staying. We will also have a few attorneys, a reporter, and a neighbor there to show support. Hopefully, we can start to get the word out in our area. I will provide a follow up post shortly...
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- James
 
Excellent news James,

I made my presentation to the Golden Hill Planning Committee last night and my proposal packet is now in their hands for consideration.

The proposal was also made and given to Anthony Bernal, representative from Todd Gloria's office, and he is bringing the packet directly to the District Offices. Coming on the heels of Todd Gloria's success in achieving his community garden plan yesterday, this hopefully will tie in nicely.

I am also providing, at her request, a copy of the packet to the chairperson for the North Park Planning Committee, so the process may begin there as well.

Let me know if you would like our packet (11 page proposal and 17 attached authoritative exhibits) to use or alter as you see fit.

Chris
 
Hey Chris! I don't know or think this above message was aimed to any others buuut I wouldn't myself mind having a copy for my own future purposes
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so I can too use it to help pursuade my local peeps here
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sorry for thkis bizare message I am typing on my smart phone!
 
Hi everyone! We moved to SD about 9 months ago & were told conflicting info about having chickens here. The town in Maine where we moved from allowed up to 10 chickens with no distance requirements for the coops to residences.
I am also in District 2, in Point Loma. My neighbor nearest the coop was asked before we got the chickens & has no problem with it. On the other side we had deadbeat party central types that were finally evicted 2 weeks ago for months of not paying rent. The owner is now fixing it up so I am unsure if they will rent it out again or sell it - either way I am trying to keep my 3 girls under the radar as I there are so many instances in SD that I am reading about where one person, for whatever personal reason causes turmoil for those who love fresh eggs. So let me know I can help - just know that I'm not a good public speaker;).
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Hi Laura, I have the entire proposal packet available for anyone who wants it. Just message me your email and I'll send it as an attachment.

Hello to you too CoastalChick, since you are in Pt Loma you can help us out by presenting at the Peninsula Community Planning Board. James has Ocean Beach covered next door to you. It's not as difficult as it sounds, we could get someone to go with you too, many friends here. But we do need a resident of the Peninsula to present the packet and make the request. The packet is all set to print, you would just need to familiarize yourself with it, schedule yourself to appear on the their next agenda and show up to just give a short introduction about what you want. Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes, as it will not be a "debate" type hearing issue at this point, just making the request that they review it. Here is their website so you can get started on scheduling: http://www.pcpb.net/index.html

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let us know what you need, and thanks for your help!

Chris
 
Everything went OK with the City Inspector. He was really nice & somewhat lenient, but he has to enforce the law the way it's written. Bottom line is that my friends will have to keep the chickens cooped up in a tiny area in the backyard and they can no longer patrol the backyard garden for insects and weeds.
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A reporter from the local news was there and he is doing a report on chicken owners in San Diego. He brought a camera man and interviewed the chicken owner for his story. I believe it is the same guy who did the report for SD Magazine, June 2011 edition. Both the City Inspector and reporter confirmed that there are A LOT of chicken owners in San Diego and there is growing support for loosening the laws. We are currently working on arranging a meeting with the OB Planning Committee and will post an update as soon as I hear more on this...
 
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Hi Chris,

I think it's great you're doing this. I live in North Park, so the same laws apply to us. We are getting our 3 hens on July 9th. We are actually within the 50' limit as it pertains to our neighbors, but not our own house! only 10 feet shy. Ridiculous that our own home should be part of the 50' limit. I also believe that 50' is too much. I have found the following site: http://www.chicken-revolution.com/index.html which is really great for helping people change laws - there are a lot of examples of how to change ordinances, an example of packet of information that was presented at their local council meetings, etc. I think it would be a very useful site for getting these laws changed.

I am willing to help in whatever capacity I am able. I work full-time and am a Mom, so my time can be limited, but I am good for doing computer research, typing up items (if someone puts the wording together) - I'm a secretary so I'm good with reading mark-ups of documents and typing it in to a nice format. Just a few ways I might be able to help. Let me know.

Thanks,
Shauna
 

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