The EE braggers thread!!!

[CGinJCMO]

Quote: Don't take this wrong but this is 7th grade science at the school I teach (a long time ago for some folks so not fresh in memory - but more current information for me but it has been four years for me and we haven't covered this material yet this year) so I've got a simple understanding of this. If feather legs are controlled by 2 genes, a dominate and a recessive, it's true that the first generation will all show feathered legs. If we are talking about one chicken with feathered legs mating with another without, all offspring will have feathered legs showing, but carry the recessive gene for clean legs. When you take the offspring with the hidden recessive gene to another with hidden recessive gene, you have a 25% chance of getting a clean legged chicken. If you have a clean legged chicken mate with one of those with the recessive yet showing feather legs, you have a 50% chance of getting clean legged chicks.

Lets see if I can create a punnet square: it's the best way to see what the chances are for genetic traits

F = feather gene dominate f = clean leg/feather leg not dominate (I don't know how to draw lines without actual paper/pencil)

Generation 1 Generation 2 (offspring back to themselves) Generation 2 (offspring to clean leg)
f / f F / f F / f
F:Ff / Ff F: FF / Ff f: Ff / ff

F:Ff / Ff f: Ff / ff f: Ff / ff

All offspring have 1/4 chance come out clean 1/2 chance come out clean
legged
feather legs but are 3/4 chance look feathered but 1/2 chance come with feathers and
carry recessive gene
carriers of recessive gene 2/4 will be carriers of recessive gene

Actually, eye and skin color is not determined by one gene so you can't always say a brown eyed baby will come from parents (or one parent) with brown eyes. Certain diseases/genetic disorders are not guarantees that if one child inherited it, all other future children will too. Some of them are simple genes, and will look like the first Gen2 ( 25% chance of getting it, 50% of being a carrier). While other genes take 4 or more copies of it to show itself.

CG

 

[ottbjumper06]

Don't take this wrong but this is 7th grade science at the school I teach (a long time ago for some folks so not fresh in memory - but more current information for me but it has been four years for me and we haven't covered this material yet this year) so I've got a simple understanding of this.  If feather legs are controlled by 2 genes, a dominate and a recessive, it's true that the first generation will all show feathered legs.  If we are talking about one chicken with feathered legs mating with another without, all offspring will have feathered legs showing, but carry the recessive gene for clean legs. When you take the offspring with the hidden recessive gene to another with hidden recessive gene, you have a 25% chance of getting a clean legged chicken. If you have a clean legged chicken mate with one of those with the recessive yet showing feather legs, you have a 50% chance of getting clean legged chicks.

Lets see if I can create a punnet square:  it's the best way to see what the chances are for genetic traits

F = feather gene dominate  f = clean leg/feather leg not dominate  (I don't know how to draw lines without actual paper/pencil)

 Generation 1                       Generation 2 (offspring back to themselves)     Generation 2 (offspring to clean leg)
   [COLOR=FF0000]  f   /   f   [/COLOR]                                         [COLOR=00FF00]F   /     f    [/COLOR]                                                      [COLOR=DDA0DD]  F   /     f  [/COLOR][COLOR=EE82EE] [/COLOR]           
[COLOR=FF0000]F:Ff   /  Ff  [/COLOR]                                     [COLOR=00FF00]F: FF  /   Ff  [/COLOR]                                                    [COLOR=DDA0DD]   f: Ff   /    ff[/COLOR]

[COLOR=FF0000]F:Ff  /   Ff [/COLOR]                                       [COLOR=00FF00]f: Ff   /     ff  [/COLOR]                                                    [COLOR=DDA0DD]  f: Ff  /     ff[/COLOR]

[COLOR=FF0000]All offspring have[/COLOR]                [COLOR=00FF00]1/4 chance come out clean[/COLOR]                     [COLOR=DDA0DD]1/2 chance come out clean[/COLOR]
[COLOR=DDA0DD]                                                                                                                    legged[/COLOR]
[COLOR=FF0000]feather legs but are[/COLOR]             [COLOR=00FF00]3/4 chance look feathered but [/COLOR]      [COLOR=DDA0DD]1/2 chance come with feathers and[/COLOR]
[COLOR=DDA0DD]                                                                                                                   carry recessive gene[/COLOR]
[COLOR=FF0000]carriers of recessive gene[/COLOR]    [COLOR=00FF00]2/4 will be carriers of recessive gene[/COLOR]

Actually, eye and skin color is not determined by one gene so you can't always say a brown eyed baby will come from parents (or one parent) with brown eyes.  Certain diseases/genetic disorders are not guarantees that if one child inherited it, all other future children will too.  Some of them are simple genes, and will look like the first Gen2 ( 25% chance of getting it, 50% of being a carrier).  While other genes take 4 or more copies of it to show itself.

CG

I took biology last year, and this is a very nice simple reminder of genetics. Thanks!

 

[CGinJCMO]

Quote:
Has to be simple...it geared toward Seventh Graders. LOL

CG

 

[CCCCCCCCHICKENS]

Don't take this wrong but this is 7th grade science at the school I teach (a long time ago for some folks so not fresh in memory - but more current information for me but it has been four years for me and we haven't covered this material yet this year) so I've got a simple understanding of this. If feather legs are controlled by 2 genes, a dominate and a recessive, it's true that the first generation will all show feathered legs. If we are talking about one chicken with feathered legs mating with another without, all offspring will have feathered legs showing, but carry the recessive gene for clean legs. When you take the offspring with the hidden recessive gene to another with hidden recessive gene, you have a 25% chance of getting a clean legged chicken. If you have a clean legged chicken mate with one of those with the recessive yet showing feather legs, you have a 50% chance of getting clean legged chicks.

Lets see if I can create a punnet square: it's the best way to see what the chances are for genetic traits

F = feather gene dominate f = clean leg/feather leg not dominate (I don't know how to draw lines without actual paper/pencil)

Generation 1 Generation 2 (offspring back to themselves) Generation 2 (offspring to clean leg)
f / f F / f F / f
F:Ff / Ff F: FF / Ff f: Ff / ff

F:Ff / Ff f: Ff / ff f: Ff / ff

All offspring have 1/4 chance come out clean 1/2 chance come out clean
legged
feather legs but are 3/4 chance look feathered but 1/2 chance come with feathers and
carry recessive gene
carriers of recessive gene 2/4 will be carriers of recessive gene

Actually, eye and skin color is not determined by one gene so you can't always say a brown eyed baby will come from parents (or one parent) with brown eyes. Certain diseases/genetic disorders are not guarantees that if one child inherited it, all other future children will too. Some of them are simple genes, and will look like the first Gen2 ( 25% chance of getting it, 50% of being a carrier). While other genes take 4 or more copies of it to show itself.

CG

When I said all offspring would have feathered legs. I was talking about breeding a feather legged to a clean legged. I should of specified. In the thread I asked nothing was every mentioned about second generation or recessive. Because that was not what I was dealing with ( i reread the conversation from months ago) I was crossing a brahma with multiple other clean legged breeds, and all the offspring did indeed have feathered legs.

 

[maryhysong]

When I said all offspring would have feathered legs. I was talking about breeding a feather legged to a clean legged. I should of specified. In the thread I asked nothing was every mentioned about second generation or recessive. Because that was not what I was dealing with ( i reread the conversation from months ago) I was crossing a brahma with multiple other clean legged breeds, and all the offspring did indeed have feathered legs.

This is really great to know! I was given a little silkie roo that had clean legs; I bought him a girlfriend that has nice leg feathering but was thinking I shouldn't breed them. So now I know I could breed them and have a good shot at the babies having correct leg feathering. Also helpful with my Marans!

 

[CCCCCCCCHICKENS]

This is really great to know! I was given a little silkie roo that had clean legs; I bought him a girlfriend that has nice leg feathering but was thinking I shouldn't breed them. So now I know I could breed them and have a good shot at the babies having correct leg feathering. Also helpful with my Marans!

Are you sure it was silkie? I know marans can be very trick. With having both Cl and Fl. And I believe the only way to tell if your Fl marans is recessive or dominant is test breeding. I am by no means a genetics genius nor a science/biology teacher.

 

[maryhysong]

Are you sure it was silkie? I know marans can be very trick. With having both Cl and Fl. And I believe the only way to tell if your Fl marans is recessive or dominant is test breeding. I am by no means a genetics genius nor a science/biology teacher.

Oh the silkie is for sure a silkie! I don't know of anything else that could look like them; he just happens to be "pet quality". Most of my Black Copper Marans have decent to good leg feathering. I have one pullet that has clean legs, but had the most copper on her neck so she has been retained for a test breeding.

 

[CCCCCCCCHICKENS]

Oh the silkie is for sure a silkie! I don't know of anything else that could look like them; he just happens to be "pet quality". Most of my Black Copper Marans have decent to good leg feathering. I have one pullet that has clean legs, but had the most copper on her neck so she has been retained for a test breeding.

O I see. I hope you have good results with your offspring from them.

 

[NanaLynn]

My EE, Olivia is finally back to laying eggs again. She started laying at 22 1/2 weeks in July and laid about 5 to 6 eggs a week until October when she went broody and stopped completely. After being broody for a few weeks, she started molting, so 3 months with no eggs from her was a long time! I did not realize how broody the EE's are.

Here is her pretty light green egg beside one of my BR's eggs. Both 1.9 ounces.

Here she is: She is 35 1/2 weeks old now. I did not realize that they molt before a year too.


Here are my two 22 1/2 week old EE. They seem to be getting close to lay eggs. One has a straight comb, so it will be interesting to see what color eggs she lays. They both have green legs and puffy cheeks too.

Ellie - Rose combed one




Greta - straight combed one or it could turn into a noodle comb?

 

[Hinotori]

My EE boy is filling out really well. He almost looks like an ameraucana now. Not as scrawny and lanky as he used to be. He gets to stay with the layer flock and guard them. He's starting to do his job.