The EMERGENCY Thread!!!

[casportpony]

Recently treated with KILVERM. More likely at risk.


https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/1144899/hen-on-deathbed#post_17839200

I'm confused, what is the purpose of this post?

-Kathy

 

[centrarchid]

I'm confused, what is the purpose of this post?

-Kathy

Link for someone like you to follow. You are a de-worming expert and it is assumed invited participants to this thread are subscribed to it.

 

[casportpony]

I'm confused, what is the purpose of this post?

-Kathy

Link for someone like you to follow. You are a de-worming expert and it is assumed invited participants to this thread are subscribed to it.

That wormer is levamisole, and might not be a good choice when de-worming one that's sick. It's sold here in the states as Prohibit I think.

-Kathy

Edited to add:
Hardly a de-worming expert, but I do enjoy reading about the various wormers, dosing, and how safe they are.

 

[CleanEggs]

Thank you. I love my birds and my little girl does too. I am thankful for this site and for people like you to help guide me through times like these.

 

[centrarchid]

That wormer is levamisole, and might not be a good choice when de-worming one that's sick. It's sold here in the states as Prohibit I think.

-Kathy

Edited to add:
Hardly a de-worming expert, but I do enjoy reading about the various wormers, dosing, and how safe they are.

That information would have been important yesterday when I was the only one fielding questions from the poster. I seldom use de-wormers and have not compared agents.

 

[GumBranchChick]

New Emergency
I am copying and pasting some questions I've posted elsewhere. Just found this thread & I think it's genius!

Hello all. Feel free to skip down to the questions. Sorry it's so extensive. I'm new to byc and don't know how to link my intro thread explaining my situation with my new chick(s).

Basically, while watching someone's farm on thanksgiving, I rescued an injured 1-2 week old

that had been picked on and had a big wound. Kept it clean and kept chicky warm. He has been doing great. Still smaller though. They offered me the other 3 and we wanted to wait until he healed more. They brought the other 3 a few days ago (Friday) and everybody is getting along great. The other 3 have been outside with Mom up until Friday and I thought I saw a smidge of red in a poop that night after he dropped them off. It had been stepped on so it was hard to tell. I had my boyfriend double check and make sure I wasn't reading too much into it and he said no it does look like it could definitely have been blood. And all the threads on here warn of waiting to treat for cocci, so I started right away. Have seen only a slight hint of red besides what I think is the red that occurs when they shed their intestinal lining, is that accurate? I stopped vitamins & electrolytes & vetrx in the water for treatment (the injured one had been on those since a few days after thanksgiving, but the other 3 had none of that where they were). They were all acting fine Friday, maybe a little scared being away from mom & in a new place. (They did have to be separated a few hours the first day when I wasn't home, so they didn't pick on the first injured chicky who is still scabbed from the injury. I came home to find them on wet newspaper bc they had splashed a lot of water out of their waterer. They shouldn't have been cold, but still a little damp for at least some portion of that few hours. We also had 2 days of torrential drought-ending rain last week when they were being kept outside...under a roof but not a huge pen so I'm sure their pen was wet.) I also considered that since they are used to being outside and it gets dark so early, that maybe I left the bathroom lights on too late the first couple nights & this particular chicky is legitimately tired. A little yawning, but not nonstop that I've noticed by any means. I don't want to assume that though!

We are going on day 4 of corid 20% powder mixed at 1/2 tsp per gallon (that was the safe number in my mind given the many different dosages given on here) and the biggest chick is looking sleepy off & on since Saturday morning, the morning after meds started. Still eating, but not as often as the others. (Mind you they're in my bathroom for temp control reasons, so I only see them in the windows of time that I'm in there.) Is very excited about live mealworms, but I'm afraid to overfeed him those because idk if he's getting much grit.

Gave a little karo water tonight for a boost, then back to corid water. I didn't mix them. I'm worried that chicky needs something else. Can I put mealworms in plain low fat or plain nonfat Greek yogurt and go ahead and give it to chicks? Or wait on yogurt until after corid treatment? Also, don't you think I could go ahead & try pedialyte water during corid treatment also? (Will not mix in the same container, of course.) I know I can't use my Durvet vitamins & electrolytes, but I just want to give the little guy something. And I don't know that the Karo water did much. I have much more experience with the benefits of pedialyte (in other species). Will switch back to Durvet v&e when we are off corid.

Am i giving enough Corid to be effective, assuming that I'm dealing with cocci? I've barely seen any signs of blood, & they were very minor at that. They weren't on vitamins & electrolytes before. Would like to do pedialyte tomorrow morning if it won't hurt anything to do it along with corid?My plan is to stop corid in a couple days at day 5 to do probiotics & vitamins/electrolytes. But if I haven't been doing enough corid, will I potentially have to restart? I would really like to do pedialyte & plain low fat or plain nonfat Greek yogurt tomorrow if it won't cause problems with them being on the Corid. Please advise, I just worry so much about them!

I'm worried I didn't need to do the corid and I'm wasting time treating something they don't have when I should be boosting them with vitamins, probiotics, etc. Just wanted to treat the most dangerous possibility first. I know I tend to get antsy when I think something is wrong with one of my animals, so I need outside opinions please!

Like I said I combined several posts so hopefully it makes sense. It's super late and I'm exhausted but I can't sleep for worrying.

Thanks!!!!

 

[minihorse927]

New Emergency
I am copying and pasting some questions I've posted elsewhere. Just found this thread & I think it's genius!

Hello all. Feel free to skip down to the questions. Sorry it's so extensive. I'm new to byc and don't know how to link my intro thread explaining my situation with my new chick(s).

Basically, while watching someone's farm on thanksgiving, I rescued an injured 1-2 week old

that had been picked on and had a big wound. Kept it clean and kept chicky warm. He has been doing great. Still smaller though. They offered me the other 3 and we wanted to wait until he healed more. They brought the other 3 a few days ago (Friday) and everybody is getting along great. The other 3 have been outside with Mom up until Friday and I thought I saw a smidge of red in a poop that night after he dropped them off. It had been stepped on so it was hard to tell. I had my boyfriend double check and make sure I wasn't reading too much into it and he said no it does look like it could definitely have been blood. And all the threads on here warn of waiting to treat for cocci, so I started right away. Have seen only a slight hint of red besides what I think is the red that occurs when they shed their intestinal lining, is that accurate? I stopped vitamins & electrolytes & vetrx in the water for treatment (the injured one had been on those since a few days after thanksgiving, but the other 3 had none of that where they were). They were all acting fine Friday, maybe a little scared being away from mom & in a new place. (They did have to be separated a few hours the first day when I wasn't home, so they didn't pick on the first injured chicky who is still scabbed from the injury. I came home to find them on wet newspaper bc they had splashed a lot of water out of their waterer. They shouldn't have been cold, but still a little damp for at least some portion of that few hours. We also had 2 days of torrential drought-ending rain last week when they were being kept outside...under a roof but not a huge pen so I'm sure their pen was wet.) I also considered that since they are used to being outside and it gets dark so early, that maybe I left the bathroom lights on too late the first couple nights & this particular chicky is legitimately tired. A little yawning, but not nonstop that I've noticed by any means. I don't want to assume that though!

We are going on day 4 of corid 20% powder mixed at 1/2 tsp per gallon (that was the safe number in my mind given the many different dosages given on here) and the biggest chick is looking sleepy off & on since Saturday morning, the morning after meds started. Still eating, but not as often as the others. (Mind you they're in my bathroom for temp control reasons, so I only see them in the windows of time that I'm in there.) Is very excited about live mealworms, but I'm afraid to overfeed him those because idk if he's getting much grit.

Gave a little karo water tonight for a boost, then back to corid water. I didn't mix them. I'm worried that chicky needs something else. Can I put mealworms in plain low fat or plain nonfat Greek yogurt and go ahead and give it to chicks? Or wait on yogurt until after corid treatment? Also, don't you think I could go ahead & try pedialyte water during corid treatment also? (Will not mix in the same container, of course.) I know I can't use my Durvet vitamins & electrolytes, but I just want to give the little guy something. And I don't know that the Karo water did much. I have much more experience with the benefits of pedialyte (in other species). Will switch back to Durvet v&e when we are off corid.

Am i giving enough Corid to be effective, assuming that I'm dealing with cocci? I've barely seen any signs of blood, & they were very minor at that. They weren't on vitamins & electrolytes before. Would like to do pedialyte tomorrow morning if it won't hurt anything to do it along with corid?My plan is to stop corid in a couple days at day 5 to do probiotics & vitamins/electrolytes. But if I haven't been doing enough corid, will I potentially have to restart? I would really like to do pedialyte & plain low fat or plain nonfat Greek yogurt tomorrow if it won't cause problems with them being on the Corid. Please advise, I just worry so much about them!

I'm worried I didn't need to do the corid and I'm wasting time treating something they don't have when I should be boosting them with vitamins, probiotics, etc. Just wanted to treat the most dangerous possibility first. I know I tend to get antsy when I think something is wrong with one of my animals, so I need outside opinions please!

Like I said I combined several posts so hopefully it makes sense. It's super late and I'm exhausted but I can't sleep for worrying.

Thanks!!!!

a couple questions, do they seem cold, fluffed up, ruffled feathers? Lethargy and blood is generally cocci. Does the chick feel thin through the breast? I've had cocci present with no bloody stool.

Your corid dosage is too low. Powder is meant to be given at 1.5 teaspoon per gallon of water for 5days then run the preventative dose after.

@casportpony, since I ran my phone over with the forklift the other day I do not have all my dosage information. Can you please give the preventive dosage and length of time?

 

[GumBranchChick]

a couple questions, do they seem cold, fluffed up, ruffled feathers? Lethargy and blood is generally cocci. Does the chick feel thin through the breast? I've had cocci present with no bloody stool.

Your corid dosage is too low. Powder is meant to be given at 1.5 teaspoon per gallon of water for 5days then run the preventative dose after.

@casportpony, since I ran my phone over with the forklift the other day I do not have all my dosage information. Can you please give the preventive dosage and length of time?

Thanks for the reply!!!
All of them have a pretty sharp keel bone, yes. At least that's the terminology in parrots...does that transfer? The first night his crop was so full that I was looking up what to do if it didn't go down by morning. But it did. I just went in now & it was down on the floor eating away, so maybe rest overnight helped or maybe that Karo kicked in. Will see how it goes as the day progresses. I am keeping a thermometer in the bathroom with them. Have been slowing dropping the little pecked one's temperature from week one & keeping them at about 72/75 now. Doesn't seem super ruffled or cold. He might puff a tiny bit when he's sleeping. Sometimes their wings push up when they sit down but it looks normal to me.

So for 20% corid powder if I use a quart waterer, I would add 3/8 tsp, correct? Does anyone know if I need to up their amount for the next two days and still stop on day 5 (tomorrow evening)? Even if I restart after a day or two. Or should I start 5 days over right now? Can I do yogurt & pedialyte during treatment? And if I stick with Karo, how often do I do that?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

New Emergency
I am copying and pasting some questions I've posted elsewhere. Just found this thread & I think it's genius!

Hello all. Feel free to skip down to the questions. Sorry it's so extensive. I'm new to byc and don't know how to link my intro thread explaining my situation with my new chick(s).

Basically, while watching someone's farm on thanksgiving, I rescued an injured 1-2 week old

that had been picked on and had a big wound. Kept it clean and kept chicky warm. He has been doing great. Still smaller though. They offered me the other 3 and we wanted to wait until he healed more. They brought the other 3 a few days ago (Friday) and everybody is getting along great. The other 3 have been outside with Mom up until Friday and I thought I saw a smidge of red in a poop that night after he dropped them off. It had been stepped on so it was hard to tell. I had my boyfriend double check and make sure I wasn't reading too much into it and he said no it does look like it could definitely have been blood. And all the threads on here warn of waiting to treat for cocci, so I started right away. Have seen only a slight hint of red besides what I think is the red that occurs when they shed their intestinal lining, is that accurate? I stopped vitamins & electrolytes & vetrx in the water for treatment (the injured one had been on those since a few days after thanksgiving, but the other 3 had none of that where they were). They were all acting fine Friday, maybe a little scared being away from mom & in a new place. (They did have to be separated a few hours the first day when I wasn't home, so they didn't pick on the first injured chicky who is still scabbed from the injury. I came home to find them on wet newspaper bc they had splashed a lot of water out of their waterer. They shouldn't have been cold, but still a little damp for at least some portion of that few hours. We also had 2 days of torrential drought-ending rain last week when they were being kept outside...under a roof but not a huge pen so I'm sure their pen was wet.) I also considered that since they are used to being outside and it gets dark so early, that maybe I left the bathroom lights on too late the first couple nights & this particular chicky is legitimately tired. A little yawning, but not nonstop that I've noticed by any means. I don't want to assume that though!

We are going on day 4 of corid 20% powder mixed at 1/2 tsp per gallon (that was the safe number in my mind given the many different dosages given on here) and the biggest chick is looking sleepy off & on since Saturday morning, the morning after meds started. Still eating, but not as often as the others. (Mind you they're in my bathroom for temp control reasons, so I only see them in the windows of time that I'm in there.) Is very excited about live mealworms, but I'm afraid to overfeed him those because idk if he's getting much grit.

Gave a little karo water tonight for a boost, then back to corid water. I didn't mix them. I'm worried that chicky needs something else. Can I put mealworms in plain low fat or plain nonfat Greek yogurt and go ahead and give it to chicks? Or wait on yogurt until after corid treatment? Also, don't you think I could go ahead & try pedialyte water during corid treatment also? (Will not mix in the same container, of course.) I know I can't use my Durvet vitamins & electrolytes, but I just want to give the little guy something. And I don't know that the Karo water did much. I have much more experience with the benefits of pedialyte (in other species). Will switch back to Durvet v&e when we are off corid.

Am i giving enough Corid to be effective, assuming that I'm dealing with cocci? I've barely seen any signs of blood, & they were very minor at that. They weren't on vitamins & electrolytes before. Would like to do pedialyte tomorrow morning if it won't hurt anything to do it along with corid?My plan is to stop corid in a couple days at day 5 to do probiotics & vitamins/electrolytes. But if I haven't been doing enough corid, will I potentially have to restart? I would really like to do pedialyte & plain low fat or plain nonfat Greek yogurt tomorrow if it won't cause problems with them being on the Corid. Please advise, I just worry so much about them!

I'm worried I didn't need to do the corid and I'm wasting time treating something they don't have when I should be boosting them with vitamins, probiotics, etc. Just wanted to treat the most dangerous possibility first. I know I tend to get antsy when I think something is wrong with one of my animals, so I need outside opinions please!

Like I said I combined several posts so hopefully it makes sense. It's super late and I'm exhausted but I can't sleep for worrying.

Thanks!!!!

Your dosage for Corid is too low if you are seeing blood. A chick that has cocci will be sleepy, Corid does not cause that symptom, it is considered a safe, mild medication.

Can you post a photo of your setup?
What temps are you keeping them at?
Exactly how old are they?
What type of food are you giving them?


Corid dosage for Cocci is 1 1/2 teaspoons Corid powder per gallon or 2 teaspoons of 9.6% Corid liquid per gallon
Give for 5-7 days - make sure this is the ONLY water available during that time period. Mix a fresh batch at least once a day.

Generally after they finish treatment offer some poultry vitamins and probiotics/plain yogurt.

 

[casportpony]

Everyone should skim this:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...rgency-and-supportive-care-updated-10-30-2016

-Kathy