The Evolution of Atlas: A Breeding (and Chat) Thread

[speckledhen]

Always nice to be both self-serving and truthful

 

[holm25]

Cyn I completely agree on FF. IMHO I find it a waist of time and overrated. And then there are also the health issues it can cause. Great videos!

 

[speckledhen]

Cyn I completely agree on FF. IMHO I find it a waist of time and overrated. And then there are also the health issues it can cause. Great videos!

Thanks, Isaiah. What the crowd refuses to tell you is that it can actually decrease some B vitamins, not increase. And they are challenging scientific lab tests in the necropsies that proved it killed birds. That is just ignorant, truly. Why be so blind? The birds come FIRST.

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

So I read this whole thing and all I got was... Your getting a puppy!!! Then I realized you are not getting a puppy -

You need to get a puppy.

I do need a puppy but maybe next year, I have too much going on right now and I do I like my sleep currently. I will regroup and get ready for next year. I am bummed I didn't get one from the ones we were going to go look at on Friday, but there always be more cute mixes. Those were pug rat terrier mixes.

Don't encourage me, I really do like dogs. You do know I currently have 5, right. I am never alone.

 

[holm25]

Thanks, Isaiah. What the crowd refuses to tell you is that it can actually decrease some B vitamins, not increase. And they are challenging scientific lab tests in the necropsies that proved it killed birds. That is just ignorant, truly. Why be so blind? The birds come FIRST.

I have to call my state vet on Monday for some lab tests we had done and I may pick her brain on this for a minute. Just to see what they think. I am sure they are against it.

People just believe what they want and ignore the TRUE facts.

 

[speckledhen]

If we get another dog, I want a BIG dog. I want protection. And I want to be able to have one that won't eat the chickens and I can take with me into the barn enclosure or allow to be out when the birds are free ranging. So, that may necessitate a dog who is already used to chickens or a puppy that can be trained.

 

[speckledhen]

I have to call my state vet on Monday for some lab tests we had done and I may pick her brain on this for a minute. Just to see what they think. I am sure they are against it.

People just believe what they want and ignore the TRUE facts.

The usual recommended method is a YEAST fermentation which, taken too far, produces alcohol. It's insanity for a bird with a crop, IMO. And the proper type of fermentation is not at all feasible for large flocks. Plus, they do waste feed! I had a comment by one of my subscribers who is into natural and homeopathic methods for her birds AS LONG AS THEY MAKE SENSE. She did try the FF, the lacto way. She said:

This is a wonderful video. There are so many people that are promoting fermenting feed. My research shows that it increases some vitamins, but causes a deficiency in others, such as the B vitamins. I also saw where others claimed it caused death in their birds. The big promotion for this is more about how much money it saves on feed. So of course, I tested it (the lacto version) just to see what all the fuss was about. The birds ate more of the fermented feed than regular feed (they overate and it didn't save money), I found it molded very quickly causing me to throw some out (waste), and I just hated the process in itself (messy slop). I am of the party you are...no fermented feed.

By the way, I do recommend her channel, Guildbrook Farm. She is in NC about 4 hours east of me, above Charlotte.

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

If we get another dog, I want a BIG dog. I want protection. And I want to be able to have one that won't eat the chickens and I can take with me into the barn enclosure or allow to be out when the birds are free ranging. So, that may necessitate a dog who is already used to chickens or a puppy that can be trained.

I hear you, I keep a couple of bigger ones a few smaller adorable ones. Some small breeds are actually useful like the rat terrier, they are great at rodent control.

All my dogs are taught to not chase or eat my chickens. There has been a few casualties through the years though not many as young dogs can be troubles. I than teach them to herd poultry, so rounding them up if necessary or chasing them out of an area is easy. My little Chihuahua rat terrier is a wonderful turkey herder.

 

[speckledhen]

I hear you, I keep a couple of bigger ones a few smaller adorable ones. Some small breeds are actually useful like the rat terrier, they are great at rodent control.

All my dogs are taught to not chase or eat my chickens. There has been a few casualties through the years though not many as young dogs can be troubles. I than teach them to herd poultry, so rounding them up if necessary or chasing them out of an area is easy. My little Chihuahua rat terrier is a wonderful turkey herder.

Have you ever watched the ratting videos on YouTube? I can't stop when I start watching one! It's fascinating the way those terriers go at it!

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

Have you ever watched the ratting videos on YouTube? I can't stop when I start watching one! It's fascinating the way those terriers go at it!

My last rat terrier I got to watch her kill a rat that had gotten into my garden shed. it was so quick and efficient. It is incredible to see.

my last rat terrier also miced all the time in the front hay field. She also, along with rest of my pack, killed a weasel that had taken up residence in our barn. They are a handy breed to have around, plus they aren't all yappy and excitable like other terrier breeds. I like my dogs to be useful, not just in the way.

Though someone is always in the way.