The Evolution of Atlas: A Breeding (and Chat) Thread

[speckledhen]

Does his lawyer say there is a chance he could keep both dogs?

I have no idea who he has or if he has his own lawyer. This is some 'poor man's divorce" she filed for, something I'd never heard of. I wish he could make her leave that dog in the U.S. If she takes that dog and something happens to him, he'll be devastated.

 

[Pyxis]

I have no idea who he has or if he has his own lawyer. This is some 'poor man's divorce" she filed for, something I'd never heard of. I wish he could make her leave that dog in the U.S. If she takes that dog and something happens to him, he'll be devastated.

Perhaps the dogs could 'get out' and go missing until she has moved. Someone could keep them for him until she is gone.

 

[speckledhen]

Perhaps the dogs could 'get out' and go missing until she has moved. Someone could keep them for him until she is gone.

Don't I wish! Sophie, the white Shepherd, is a special case. It would completely freak her out and all the progress made with her might be lost. She was a puppy mill breeding dog and has issues.

 

[getaclue]

Good idea, Pyxis. OR he could legally fight to keep the dogs. He doesn't have to agree with what she proposes on the divorce paperwork, and can refuse to sign, until she gives him both dogs.

 

[getaclue]

Many divorce lawyers offer free consultations. He needs to go talk to a couple of them.

 

[speckledhen]

I'd blackmail her, if it was me. He has something over her that he can use, the fact that her much younger "brother" is actually her son and he doesn't even know. He could say that if she doesn't leave the dog with him, he'll spill the beans to Brian that she is his mother, not his sister. That might do it. I can hear him now "I won't sink to that level". Well, I say, okay, then you can just lose your dog. As it is, she is giving him the house, which is huge, but then, she knows he has documented evidence of her cheating and planning to move overseas with a much younger man, a man who is younger than her own son!

ETA: This divorce is a kind of uncontested divorce, no actual lawyers involved. I might not pursue the dog thing legally, but I sure would play dirty by holding her secret over her head to make sure his dog gets to stay with Sophie. Yeah, I've become very hard and cynical about liars and cheaters over the years. They deserve whatever comes their way. All he has to do is make that "offer" and as soon as she's gone without the dog, he doesn't have to say a word to Brian.

 

[Sinful chick]

Thanks. He was so affectionate with me, would literally throw himself from the back of the cage to the front, right at my chest and snuggle up to me (the cage bottom was at my chest level). The morning he passed, he was fine. I was going morning chores, said hello to him and gave him more feed, went to the other coop. He crowed and I had said to him, "You sound a little hoarse, buddy!". He would raise up to crow and use all his strength to belt it out loudly to match Isaac and Suede and the others. I went back around about 10-15 minutes later and he had a lot of hay in his feed. I didn't really look at him, but I said as I was scooping it out, "You made a big mess, buddy. " Then, I realized he was not moving. He was already gone, just crowed his way off into the great blue yonder. I prefer them to go out being healthy and happy the way he did and the way Isaac did.

I feel your pain. I lost my baby a few months ago. I still cry.

 

[speckledhen]

I feel your pain. I lost my baby a few months ago. I still cry.

I'm sorry for your loss. They really worm their way into our hearts, don't they?

 

[getaclue]

I agree about playing dirty to get the dog. It's not that easy to transport a dog overseas. It takes months of quarantine in a cage, and she has to pay boarding costs while it's in quarantine. In addition, there are vet bills too. It has to be certified, and all paperwork done here by a vet within so many hours of transporting it, then a vet has to examine the dog when it arrives. After the quarantine period, the dog has to be checked again. Why would she want to do that to the dog? Especially one that is so needy? It doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

[speckledhen]

I agree about playing dirty to get the dog. It's not that easy to transport a dog overseas. It takes months of quarantine in a cage, and she has to pay boarding costs while it's in quarantine. In addition, there are vet bills too. It has to be certified, and all paperwork done here by a vet within so many hours of transporting it, then a vet has to examine the dog when it arrives. After the quarantine period, the dog has to be checked again. Why would she want to do that to the dog? Especially one that is so needy? It doesn't make a lot of sense.

Apparently, the quarantine is not done anymore. I thought it was. He had to be microchipped and that was done. His shots have to be up to date and they are.
Below is the procedure....seems very involved to me.
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Thanks to the UK Pet Travel Scheme (PETS), your pet will not need to fulfill a six month quarantine period as long as you have fulfilled these requirements.[1]


Getting the Necessary Tests and Vaccines
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Make sure your pet is fitted with a microchip. If you are shipping a dog, a cat, or a ferret to the UK, your pet should be fitted with a microchip by your vet. This microchip will ensure your pet is properly identified when he reaches the UK.[2]

• Keep in mind microchips do not act as GPS devices or tracking devices for your pet. Instead, they contain a radio-frequency identification that acts as a permanent ID for your pet. The microchip procedure is painless for your pet and can be done at your vet’s office.[3]
• Not all microchips use the same reader. To ensure the chip can be read, you can purchase one that is compatible with the chip, or you can ask your vet what type of chip has been implanted and then contact the UK DEFRA organization to see if the readers are compatible. If the chip cannot be read, you pet will likely be put into quarantine.

Get your pet vaccinated for rabies. This is a required step in the process of bringing your pet to the UK. You will need to have your pet vaccinated for rabies even if he has a current rabies vaccination.[4] Make sure this information is recorded in your pet's passport on on their health certificate.

• Once your vet gives your pet the rabies vaccine, you will need to wait 21 days from the day after your pet received the vaccine to make arrangements for your pet to enter the UK.
  Have your dog tested and treated for tapeworm. If your pet is a dog and you are planning to have him shipped to the UK, you will need to have him treated with an approved product containing praziquantel, which is effective at killing the tapeworms (Echinococcus multilocularis).[5]
  • The treatment must be be approved for use in the country in which it’s being given.
  • If your dog has tapeworm, your veterinarian should apply the treatment for tapeworm no more than five days before your pet is scheduled to be shipped to the UK, and the treatment should be recorded on your pet’s health certificate to show he has been treated for tapeworm.
  
  Part 2
  Obtaining the Necessary Documentation
  
  
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  Get a health certificate for your pet. Your vet can provide you with a copy of your pet’s health certificate stating the pet is free from infectious disease and healthy enough to travel. The certificate should confirm that your pet has received his rabies vaccine and has been treated for tapeworm, if applicable.[6][7]
  • Your pet should travel within 10 days of the certificate being issued. The certificate is valid for four months if your pet does any more travelling within the UK. The certificate will be reviewed and stamped by an official when your pet first enters the UK.
  
  

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Obtain a pet passport for your pet. Many vets can provide a pet passport for your pet. If your vet does not have access to a pet passport, ask her to refer you to a vet nearby that does give out pet passports or contact the Animal and Plant Health Agency of the UK here: https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/animal-and-plant-health-agency/about/access-and-opening. You should check that your vet has filled out the following information in the passport:[8]

• The details of ownership, including the full owner name(s).
• A full description of the animal.
• Any identifications of the animal, such as the microchip information.
• Confirmation of vaccination against rabies, as well as rabies blood tests.
• Confirmation of tapeworm treatment, if applicable.

Fill out a declaration form for your pet. Before your pet can enter the UK, you will need to confirm that your pet is not coming into the UK for commercial purposes. You can fill out the declaration form at home and bring it with you when you are arranging for the shipment of your pet to the UK.[9]

• A blank UK declaration form for pets can be found here: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...93123/declaration-non-commercial-movement.pdf.

Confirm the transport company is approved for pet travel to the UK. Your pet can only travel to the UK with an approved transport company on an approved route via air travel, sea travel, or rail travel. You are not allowed to bring your pet on a private boat or plane from outside the UK unless you are travelling from Ireland.[10]

• A list of approved routes under the Pet Travel Scheme can be found here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...l-and-charter-routes-for-the-movement-of-pets.
• Keep in mind if you are travelling with more than five pets or planning to ship more than five pets at once, you will need to comply with additional rules and guidelines. Ask the transport company about the guidelines around shipping multiple pets at once.

Ask the transport company if they need a statement of travel from your vet. Some transport companies will require a written and signed statement from your vet confirming your pet is fit to travel to the UK. You may need to provide the transport company this statement in addition to the required documentation for your pet.[11]

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Keep in mind your pet must travel within five days of you if you are not travelling together. If you are shipping your pet to the UK, you will need to be enter the UK within five days of your pet’s arrival date. You can give written authorization for someone else to travel to the UK and pick up your pet, but they will need to travel within five days of your pet as well.[12]

• Once your pet arrives in the UK, airport staff will scan your pet’s microchip and examine your pet’s travel documentation. If your pet does not have the required travel documentation or has not received the required vaccines for travel to the UK, he may be held in quarantine or sent back to his country of origin.
• As the pet owner, you are responsible for the quarantine fee (usually £300/month for dogs and £200/month for cats) for your pet. The UK has a mandatory six month quarantine period for pets who do not fall under the UK Pet Travel Scheme.[13]

(from https://www.wikihow.com/Ship-a-Pet-to-the-UK)