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Deb, she is a beautiful draft!

Welcome to everyone....

We killed one snake last year. It was in my brooder coop and had killed a chick. I was really surprised we didn't see more since we had just cleared the land and we still have a huge brush pile to burn some time this year. I'm only worried about copperheads and the occasional timber rattler but I haven't ever seen one just heard people say they have.
 
Check out this post (about a snake bite) by a lady on another thread...

"Farm Mommy

I will be using this in the spring. My daughter was bit by a copperhead. 17 viles of antivenom, two days in ICU and over $260, 000.00 bill to the insurance. I wont tell you our end of it. But lets just say it will take me ten years to pay it off easy! We had birds dying left and right until snake hunkered down for winter. The one that bit my daughter is dead. But I know we have more. I will be placing these all over my farm. Thank you so much for the post. You literally are saving a life.
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Check out this post (about a snake bite) by a lady on another thread...

"Farm Mommy

I will be using this in the spring. My daughter was bit by a copperhead. 17 viles of antivenom, two days in ICU and over $260, 000.00 bill to the insurance. I wont tell you our end of it. But lets just say it will take me ten years to pay it off easy! We had birds dying left and right until snake hunkered down for winter. The one that bit my daughter is dead. But I know we have more. I will be placing these all over my farm. Thank you so much for the post. You literally are saving a life.
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Second post by same lady...

" She was bit on the toe. Only one fang got her. She stepped on it by accident. We live in southern Maryland. She was walking into the hay room and it was dark. We thankfully taught our girls about poisonous snakes and what yo do if your ever bit. They say copperheads are not that venomous. Ya couldn't convince me of that. Not after this. She is a healthy 17 year-old. ..she did not have an allergic reaction. Yet it took a lot of anti-venom to stop the progression. I sadly knew more on how to treat it then the hospital did. It wasn't until she got yo the icu at children's in dc did I feel like anyone knew what they were doing. And I thought I was being a bit over prepared when I took the time to learn all of this. We camped in snake area. Never thought it would happen at home."


Here's the link to the thread...
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/515899/best-way-ive-found-yet-to-deal-with-snake-problems
 
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bwhaahahah,,,, funny how that momma bear comes out in us when we feel our family is threatened....

When I first moved up to my patch of heaven there was an ongoing massive fire in San Diego.... I had family evacuated from one house to settle in another only to have to move every one back to the other house. .... There were herds of mule deer running in front right up through residential areas.... Up at my place sixty miles away the first two years the mule deer And the predators were concentrating there because they were following the deer.

It has settled down since thank goodness. The only thing I have to really worry about are packs of dogs. URG.... Hey I have a question for you.... My opinion is to not remove a predator unless they become dangerous to people.... but to condition them to leave YOUR stuff alone.... that way you know he is keeping out other predators.... Dos that make sense...
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Deb - that makes even more sense than you realize, and is an issue that many many people never understand.

So to go a bit more in detail (and most places have a major issue with coyotes, or raccoons or peccaries), an animal who has an established territory usually has areas that it deals with, and rules that it goes by (in cities with coyotes, the cats are generally pretty safe because the established resident individual keeps all the young'uns and transient coyotes out of the area.

As soon as the established resident is gone (shot, dies for other reason), then there's an influx of individuals, that causes a big mess - fights between individuals, increase in predation, increase in human encounters, and that lasts until another territory gets established - which can take a while.

If you keep shooting or poisoning the resident predators, then you keep getting influx of young agitators (teenage coyotes, cougars, etc...) and they are a big problem. Lots of people think that if you keep shooting them eventually you will get rid of all of them - but that just doesn't happen. As long as predators are not extinct, they will keep coming.

As well, they have their place! For example, at my parent's place the hunters try to shoot all the coyotes. What happens then is that there is an influx of raccoons, rabbits, mice and ground hogs. If the coyotes are there, there are fewer that are around to eat their veggies and get in their roof (raccoons). They'd prefer the coyotes to the smaller pests (now that they understand the system better and have seen first hand how removing the top predator affects everything else)!
 
Which is why it's always nice to own your own predator and let him/her establish a "territory" around your coop and surrounding area. My dog takes it very seriously and guards that territory and those in it with never ending vigilance. I think a dog that stays in the house part~or all~ of the time doesn't have that same sense of territory in the yard..it's at night when all the major predators come into play and start prowling the perimeters and that's when a dog needs to be out there to confront and establish his ability to hold that territory. Just peeing everywhere doesn't really prove that.

Well...I think today is the day I start my hatch. I've changed my mind about the location of my setup....I was going to conduct it in the coop but I think this first one should be where I can monitor it more closely. I think later hatches in warmer weather will be done in the coop, though, if this method works well.

So....here goes...... today I'm divin' into the deep blue of incubation.....
 
Deb, she is a beautiful draft!

Welcome to everyone....

We killed one snake last year. It was in my brooder coop and had killed a chick. I was really surprised we didn't see more since we had just cleared the land and we still have a huge brush pile to burn some time this year. I'm only worried about copperheads and the occasional timber rattler but I haven't ever seen one just heard people say they have.
I am surprised too. Hopefully the process made them (best Pink Panther voice) Exit... Stage left..

The best defence is education and keeping your area cleared of Hidey holes.... Wood piles, junk piles etc.... No reaching under stuff without using your eyes first or a big stick. Dont leave your shoes on the front porch or back porch... .especially here.... Because all sorts of critters see them as a safe place to hide for the night or heat of the day.

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Which is why it's always nice to own your own predator and let him/her establish a "territory" around your coop and surrounding area. My dog takes it very seriously and guards that territory and those in it with never ending vigilance. I think a dog that stays in the house part~or all~ of the time doesn't have that same sense of territory in the yard..it's at night when all the major predators come into play and start prowling the perimeters and that's when a dog needs to be out there to confront and establish his ability to hold that territory. Just peeing everywhere doesn't really prove that.

Well...I think today is the day I start my hatch. I've changed my mind about the location of my setup....I was going to conduct it in the coop but I think this first one should be where I can monitor it more closely. I think later hatches in warmer weather will be done in the coop, though, if this method works well.

So....here goes...... today I'm divin' into the deep blue of incubation.....
I would love to have a livestock guardian dog..... But for me to do it right I need to fence my property and I cant afford that right now.... Last time I priced it it was around 10K. Also in my case all my livestock are within reach and I actually can hear the predators.... the chickens are less than fifty feet away from my bedroom the horse .... LOL can take care of herself.... I have seen her take a swipe at a dog...if she ever connected they would be unrecogniseable.... And the goats hang with the horse....

Bee where in the heck did you get that shark gif.... LOL.

deb
 

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