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I got a bunch of pictures from a friend and one picture that caught my eye was this Mohawk Ckl. Look at his leg placement and his top line.
He is just a young guy but he looks to have great type for such a young male. Just one more future Mohawk R I Red breeder to help us get the number out for the future. Thanks Steve for sending me all the pictures. bob
 
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I found a old book by Mrs Danieals and want you too look at her birds for that period. She was into big time egg production and sold eggs and chicks to people back then for that purpose only. She let her type and color go to the way side. Do you agree?
Could this be the trend of the commercial red that we have today?
As I look at her pictures of her birds that is what appears to me. Bob
 
That's what happened resulting in 2 types of RI Reds. In the 1920s& 30s Red breeders took 2 divergent paths. Some, such as Mrs Daniels, focused solely on productivity paying little or no attention to appearance. Others focused solely on appearance paying little or no attention to productivity. As a result we were left with Reds that laid well but bore little resemblence to the Standard description & Reds that adhered to the Standard description but weren't particularly productive.
There were some breeders, Harold Tompkins comes to mind, who paid attention to both appearance & productivity but they were in the minority. Since productivity was the goal of the commercial poultry enterprises those birds bred for productivity became the dominate type available & standard bred Reds became hard to find. They have remained hard to find until fairly recently. With the new interest in heritage livestock & the slow food movement there has been new interest in several old breeds of poultry, Reds among them.
Hopefully many of these new Red breeders will pay attention to both appearance & productivily because there's no reason, with proper selection, that both can't be maintained.
 
NYREDS said:
That's what happened resulting in 2 types of RI Reds. In the 1920s& 30s Red breeders took 2 divergent paths. Some, such as Mrs Daniels, focused solely on productivity paying little or no attention to appearance. Others focused solely on appearance paying little or no attention to productivity. As a result we were left with Reds that laid well but bore little resemblence to the Standard description & Reds that adhered to the Standard description but weren't particularly productive.
There were some breeders, Harold Tompkins comes to mind, who paid attention to both appearance & productivity but they were in the minority. Since productivity was the goal of the commercial poultry enterprises those birds bred for productivity became the dominate type available & standard bred Reds became hard to find. They have remained hard to find until fairly recently. With the new interest in heritage livestock & the slow food movement there has been new interest in several old breeds of poultry, Reds among them.
Hopefully many of these new Red breeders will pay attention to both appearance & productivily because there's no reason, with proper selection, that both can't be maintained.
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I came across this site quite a while back and last night was going through my favorites and clicked on it and was reading some of the stuff on their and it tells on there that Mrs. Daniels did just what you guys are saying. http://chickenhistorynow.blogspot.com/2011/10/ebthompson-imperial-ringlets-barred.html Read the instructions on the bottom right so you can see some write ups.
Jim
 
Jim you hit a historic gold mind of data. I was looking at this page from Robs site. http://chickenhistorynow.blogspot.com/p/rhode-islands.html

You can see all of the Whos Who in great pictures of what some of the birds looked like in the early days of the breed. This whole blog can give you history on breeds that we call Heritage Breeds.

What a wonderfull amount of work he has done to put all this in a order for others to see.

The purpose of my research on where the Rhode Island Reds went down the path of no return is the 99 1/2 % of the people who have so called Rhode Island Reds today who will not give the credit or respect and dues to the for fathers of our breed for what they did to build up this breed and how the production side of poultry in our country took this breed down the road of muts and birds that dont resemble the breed. In my view as a History Buff its one of the worst injustice I have seen in how a name as the Rhode Island Red has been high jacked and pictures of birds used are not true to the breed. Its like reading a article on the Internet about Polled Her fords and the pictures of the female cows where half Her ford and Half Guernsey. When you write and post something you should do your home work and make sure it is authentic in words and in pictures. Today when you ask 100 people what does a Rhode Island Red look like and if you had ten pictures of them 99 percent of the people would pick out the production red and say these pictures are the what they should look like. Yet if you asked them to pick out a picture of a Chow Chow dog they would all pick the picture of the original Chow Chow and not a German Shepard-Chow Cross like I use to own.

New York Reds you said it best. Mr. Harold Tompkins was the one of many that had his birds truly dual purpose and his magic egg laying goal was about 200 eggs per pullet year and the bird could go to a show room and win in heavy competing. This is why many of the current Hall of Fame members in the Rhode Island Red Club felt he was the greatest breeder of all time for this breed. Thanks Jim hope many will save this blog and study it is a historic Poultry Gold Mine of the past. bob
 
Robert Blosl said:
Jim you hit a historic gold mind of data. I was looking at this page from Robs site. http://chickenhistorynow.blogspot.com/p/rhode-islands.html

You can see all of the Whos Who in great pictures of what some of the birds looked like in the early days of the breed. This whole blog can give you history on breeds that we call Heritage Breeds.

What a wonderfull amount of work he has done to put all this in a order for others to see.

The purpose of my research on where the Rhode Island Reds went down the path of no return is the 99 1/2 % of the people who have so called Rhode Island Reds today who will not give the credit or respect and dues to the for fathers of our breed for what they did to build up this breed and how the production side of poultry in our country took this breed down the road of muts and birds that dont resemble the breed. In my view as a History Buff its one of the worst injustice I have seen in how a name as the Rhode Island Red has been high jacked and pictures of birds used are not true to the breed. Its like reading a article on the Internet about Polled Her fords and the pictures of the female cows where half Her ford and Half Guernsey. When you write and post something you should do your home work and make sure it is authentic in words and in pictures. Today when you ask 100 people what does a Rhode Island Red look like and if you had ten pictures of them 99 percent of the people would pick out the production red and say these pictures are the what they should look like. Yet if you asked them to pick out a picture of a Chow Chow dog they would all pick the picture of the original Chow Chow and not a German Shepard-Chow Cross like I use to own.

New York Reds you said it best. Mr. Harold Tompkins was the one of many that had his birds truly dual purpose and his magic egg laying goal was about 200 eggs per pullet year and the bird could go to a show room and win in heavy competing. This is why many of the current Hall of Fame members in the Rhode Island Red Club felt he was the greatest breeder of all time for this breed. Thanks Jim hope many will save this blog and study it is a historic Poultry Gold Mine of the past. bob
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Yes Bob, that link is also on the same site. I was reading about the E.B. Thompson Barred Rocks when I saved it to my favorites. Wasn't even thinking to click the RIR before copying/pasting to my post. lol Probably having a senior moment. ha,ha
I burnt all the information from your site concerning breeding etc of the RIR to CD. I'll keep it always. Thanks.
 

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