The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

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Steven Grible from Chatswort has very nice Reds and may be next year can help you. He is SGRIBLE on here.

 

[NYREDS]

Does anyone know what line Horstmans RC RIR come from? I have read posts about speculations, but is anyone sure?

I know who could tell you: horstmanspoultry.com Dick's a nice guy & I'm sure he'd be happy to talk to you about the Reds

 

[Robert Blosl]

I have looked at a lot of pics of hatchlings and noticed a variance in coloring, markings of the chicks.I am wondering what is the connection, if there is one, between the down color of chicks and the final coloring of adult RIRs? Is there any particular coloring or markings on chicks that I should look for to indicate how they will color out as adults?

Here is a very good question. When I see baby chicks posted on here I can tell from the down color and the beak color what they will turn out like. Chicks with dark chocolate color and dark horn color are your rare rare Standard Breed R I Reds. The chicks that are blond colored have light bill or beak color are your very popular Production Reds or Cherry Eggers. There are thousand and thousands of them sold all over America and in Feed Stores in the USA.

The Standard Colored Heritage R I Reds are very rare, breed by only a few breeders that have had them over ten years. Many are getting into them and have had them for one to three years.

These folks are going to be the sources for many this year to get eggs or chicks from. No hatceries or feed stores sell these kind of birds.

Hope this helps you.

 

[Lmjc]

What age does a RIR rooster start to develop rooster parts, because I have 3 RIRs I think 1 may be a rooster, one of the chicks is a little bigger, and has a slight bigger comb than the others. Another has a slight redder comb than the others. And one just looks like a plain chick, they were sopposed to be all hens. It's okay if I have roosters, I'd just like to know if one of them is a rooster, they are each 3 weeks old

 

[OSUman]

Adrian Rademacher has some nice RC Ive been told also, I wish I had the room and time to deveote for some RIR.

 

[Robert Blosl]

When you look for Rose Combs that are kind of pure there are only a few. Many have been crossed with single comb. The pure lines that I know of are Radamaker line out of Minnesota he has been breeding them for over 30 years. Warren Carlow has a old line from Maine. I dont know of anyone who has his birds or have ever seen them but he is a very good breeder and a APA judge.

Gary Underwood had a line he crossed about 35 years ago a Rose Comb Rhode Island Red bantam male onto a few of his Single Comb R I Red large fowl. From this he got the Rose Comb gene and then got them up to size. When I lived in Wisconsin 31 years ago I went to Gary's house and he gave me five dozen eggs and I hatched a killer Rose Comb male. Best I ever saw but had to get out of town because of a bad job and gave them away. They are still pure and do not think they have any crossed blood of any kind in them.

Dick has some I dont know that much about them. If they are Ricky Bates line I did not know he had any only single combs befor he died. He did get his birds from the St. Romain family she told me she crossed some of the Radamaker Rose Combs onto her Single Combs and maybe he got some of these from Ricky when he got the Single Combs from them. http://horstmanspoultry.com/largefowlhome/rosecombrhodeislandred.html

Another line you can get chicks or eggs from is Roy Autery line out of Arkansas I dont know much about his reds or have seen any one who has got birds from him. He is VP of the Rhode Island Red Club. I have talked to him on the phone a few times. He also, has a web site and has about 20 other breeds of chickens so if you want many breeds for your self or friends or have a youth 4H program you could load up on chicks for these kind of projects.

I am not much of a fan of Crossing strains such as Rose Combs to Rose Combs or even Rose Combs to Single Combs. We have enough breeds and strains of chickens that have crossed blood in them and it looks good on paper to make a cross such as a white rock onto a white wyandotte to get a better width of feather or what ever but normally down the road you see faults that pop up and people have a hard time getting such as Wyandotte blood out of their rocks.

The strain is the URCH line in Minnesota. I think he got his Rose Combs from Rev John Melchert a minister and big booster of R I Reds in Minn 30 plus years ago. All I can tell you a friend of mine got some from Urch about 15 years ago and he raised some super birds from this line. http://www.standardbreedpoultry.com/charlie_voda/

My friend Chalie lives only about 50 miles from the URCH farm and says they lay great hatch like crazy and plans to hatch 300 next year.

They are a great breed to own if you live in super super cold climates. The cold does not effect their combs like single combs and they are a great dual purpose American Class breed to own. We need allot of help with this breed and type. If you want some you should be very happy with them.

Hopefully, in a year or two as five to ten of you get these birds we will be able to direct the beginners to them. Be patient they are out there but get your name on their waiting list as soon as you can.

 

[mississippifarmboy]

Adrian Rademacher has some nice RC Ive been told also, I wish I had the room and time to deveote for some RIR.

These are directly from Mr. Radamacher.

 

[Robert Blosl]

Quote: The above male is in mint condition and if he was shown in a good class I would give him best of variety. He is a killer. Is this male part of your breeding program for next year?

Look at the length of back, brick shape the color is dead on for you who wonder what color a Rhode Island Red should be. A maiting in my mind is he is mated to two of the best females for type and comb. Hatch 40 chicks and then pick the two best daughters and mate them back to him next year. Then toe punch the two lines as line A and line B then mate him to a male such as his brother. Mate again the best daughters back to him for two years. You should have a line of Rose Combs that has his looks stamped into your line for ten years.

Terry, you got one of the best male lines of R I Reds and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds in the USA. Keep up the good work get your numbers up and you will be a major player in this very rare breed. I wished other types of large fowl was of this quality. Thanks for the pictures. What a gift for this nice Friday moaning to look at. bob

 

[immyjay54]

Bob, this is for you.
Please don't anyone think that I am being smart about this but I am a little confused. First I want to say that I am in hopes of doing the best that I can with any of the RIR lines that I have. I keep them all separated and was never thinking of crossing anything then, the thought hit me of maybe crossing one of my really nice Don Nelson cock birds with my 3 Horstman rose comb hens this coming spring. It was just a thought then I read this:
Post 1895
Here is a idea. Why dont one of you young people get a few rose comb rhode island red females and a cracker jack really nice Single Comb Male I mean a killer male and cross them onto this male and start your own line of Rose Comb R I Reds. It may take five years but we can help you pick the right combs and maintain the single comb type and in five to seven years you will have the top Rose Comb R I Reds in the USA.

After reading that post, I read this next post. Now my question is this. Would it or would it not be a good idea to cross these lines. I have said since I got my first reds that I would not cross them with anything. I'm trying to follow all the suggestions of you (Bob), NYREDS (Bill) and others on here that I consider the most knowledgeable ones of the breed but these two comments really have me confused. I guess the best thing for me to do is just keep them 100% separate and then I won't have any problems. I sure don't want anyone saying that my birds are not pure because I crossed them.
Post 1926
I am not much of a fan of Crossing strains such as Rose Combs to Rose Combs or even Rose Combs to Single Combs. We have enough breeds and strains of chickens that have crossed blood in them and it looks good on paper to make a cross such as a white rock onto a white wyandotte to get a better width of feather or what ever but normally down the road you see faults that pop up and people have a hard time getting such as Wyandotte blood out of their rocks.

Again, please don't think that I am picking at anyone, I'm just trying to do the right thing here. This was very confusing to me. Maybe I'm just reading it wrong.

 

[Chris09]

Quote from Bob:
Bob Dick got the Rose Comb Reds off Ricky about 10-15 years ago when Ricky was selling out of his Rose Comb Reds and getting into Single Combs. At this time I can't remember where Ricky got his Rose Comb Reds from but I'll try to find some old messages and see if I can find out.

Chris