The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

[BantyChickenLuv]

You need to look at the strains you have then get down to one strain. Having two or three diffeerent strains will cost you a lot of money and greef. Its about like having rose combs and single combs large fowl and bantam in reds. Two many birds and never get good in any of them.

One day when I get a chance I will try to figure out his dads name. I may be all wet on this maybe New York Reds can help me out. I just dont have a lot of data in my brain on this fellows Reds. To many other great strains to worry about or think about from the old days.

Also I sent out about ten messages with the article on how to get started with Rhode Island Red large fowl. If you want a copy you can go to my web site its the last article I posted right on the top of all the others. Just type my name blosl or blosls rhode island reds or rhode island reds

Do you have one on starting Bantam Reds? Thanks.

 

[draye]

Just marking my spot.

 

[FOGELLY]

Chris09 posted this picture a couple times on several threads,. I got a question in relation to it.

I have several hens and pullets that have the correct black tipped hackle. I have not found any with the striped hackle. However there are two from last springs hatch that have a little different marking. They also happen to be my darkest pullets and have really good type. I drew a picture, because I was unable to get a good picture of it.
The one on the top is the marking their hackle has, the lower one is what most of the others have. Both of these pullets also have a few black ticked feathers on their back, not many but a few.

Any thoughts? Other than my pitiful art work.
Ron

 

[ChickMagnet207]

the top picture looks like lacing.

 

[FOGELLY]

the top picture looks like lacing.

Because of my less than accurate art work, I can see how you could say that. The marking is not near as defined as my drawing makes it appear.
I need to try to get a couple pictures.
Thank you for your answer it is appreciated.
Ron

 

[BantyChickenLuv]

Chris09 posted this picture a couple times on several threads,. I got a question in relation to it.

I have several hens and pullets that have the correct black tipped hackle. I have not found any with the striped hackle. However there are two from last springs hatch that have a little different marking. They also happen to be my darkest pullets and have really good type. I drew a picture, because I was unable to get a good picture of it.
The one on the top is the marking their hackle has, the lower one is what most of the others have. Both of these pullets also have a few black ticked feathers on their back, not many but a few.

Any thoughts? Other than my pitiful art work.
Ron

I was confused about the "lacing" on the hackle feathers. I noticed that on that pullet of my friend's this weekend. I wasn't sure if you wanted that or not. I have my answer now. Do you have a picture/explanation on wing coloring? I'm still not sure about that.

 

[Robert Blosl]

as a beginner dont beat yourself up on wing coloring. Focus on shape more. Here is a very good picture of black markings in a bantam which is the same on a large fowl.

Sometimes the secondary color is not alot or only maybe 20 or 30 percent of what it should be. You can ad some each year as you go. Many breeders felt one of the reasons the black could not get into the wings was from the blockage of the yellow factor in the color make up of the reds. When you had big globs of black on the female neck feathers this blocked the black to go where it should go. Chris picture is I think from a book from England on Reds many years ago. It shows you how ever what the point should be on ticking. Many of the strains we have in the coutnry do not have this. So be patient and over time you can slowly correct these faults. Cant be done by a rookie in a couple of years maybe five or ten. Have fun and keep showing good stuff like this. If the female had feathers like you showed I would try to breed her to a male clean in the neck and came from a dam or mother that was as close to ticking as I could get. You can also mate the top ckl of this female back to her and then again the next year and many times inbreeding washes or weekens the color or the fault. The best pullets could be mated back to the sire for two or three years or his brother and then the pullets will still have the dark color of the original female you like and the pullets three years latter wil be clean of defects. It should work that is what others did years ago to keep the color in the middle of the road


.http://www.rhodeislandredclub.eu/index.html

 

[Chris09]

Fogelly,

Are the Hackle Markings more like --

This with the Black in the center with Red [in the case of the R.I. Red] on the outer edge;

Or like this with Red in the center [in the case of the R.I. Red] and Black on the outer edge;

Note,
The pictures above are not from a R.I. Red and are only being used as a example.

Chris

 

[FOGELLY]

Fogelly,

Are the Hackle Markings more like --

This with the Black in the center with Red [in the case of the R.I. Red] on the outer edge;

Or like this with Red in the center [in the case of the R.I. Red] and Black on the outer edge;

Note,
The pictures above are not from a R.I. Red and are only being used as a example.

Chris

More like the bottom, but it does not go as far up the feather. Also not as well defined except at the tip.
Color has not been a part of my breeding program yet, I am still focused on type. I am pretty happy with the color of my strain, but was curious about the ticking and wanting to learn.

Ron

 

[Chris09]

More like the bottom, but it does not go as far up the feather. Also not as well defined except at the tip.
Color has not been a part of my breeding program yet, I am still focused on type. I am pretty happy with the color of my strain, but was curious about the ticking and wanting to learn.
Ron

The bottom one is lacing and I'm not sure why those hens would be showing lacing even if it is less defined.
I would keep a eye on them and breed them to a good clean hackled rooster when you start breeding for color.


Chris