The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

[japman117201]

This could be a big mistake, but I'll give it a try. I am slowly moving from bantam chickens to standards and am about ready to try Reds. I have been following this thread for a while and keeping quiet, but now I am speaking up. I have been fooling around with show chickens for about 30 years and have developed my own opinions about breeding styles. With that said I am looking for your opinions on which of the strains you all discuss to work with.
Some of my opinions:
1. Don't cross established strains because you are opening a can of gene worms.
2. Don't get too many strains because you can end up with too many birds and not enough space to really accomplish what you want to do.
3. Be careful of strain name dropping.
4. I know that just because a strain has been bred for a long time doesn't necessarily make it quality
I am looking for input before I get started.
If each of you were starting fresh, where would you go for a start in Single Comb Large Fowl Rhode Island Reds?
Terry Wible

 

[rolling plains]

If just getting started today, where would you recommend going to get RC RIR Heritage Birds?

 

[ChickMagnet207]

From what I hear murray mcmurray has some nice heritage rose combs! j/k i'm sure someone else can help you....

 

[BantyChickenLuv]

If just getting started today, where would you recommend going to get RC RIR Heritage Birds?

I know Duane Urch has very nice LF and Bantam, at about $7 a piece, for Bantam. I recently placed an order for 6 Heritage RC RIR Bantams. Just google Duane Urch and his website (Urch/Turnland Poultry) should come up.

 

[BantyChickenLuv]

as a beginner dont beat yourself up on wing coloring. Focus on shape more. Here is a very good picture of black markings in a bantam which is the same on a large fowl.

Sometimes the secondary color is not alot or only maybe 20 or 30 percent of what it should be. You can ad some each year as you go. Many breeders felt one of the reasons the black could not get into the wings was from the blockage of the yellow factor in the color make up of the reds. When you had big globs of black on the female neck feathers this blocked the black to go where it should go. Chris picture is I think from a book from England on Reds many years ago. It shows you how ever what the point should be on ticking. Many of the strains we have in the coutnry do not have this. So be patient and over time you can slowly correct these faults. Cant be done by a rookie in a couple of years maybe five or ten. Have fun and keep showing good stuff like this. If the female had feathers like you showed I would try to breed her to a male clean in the neck and came from a dam or mother that was as close to ticking as I could get. You can also mate the top ckl of this female back to her and then again the next year and many times inbreeding washes or weekens the color or the fault. The best pullets could be mated back to the sire for two or three years or his brother and then the pullets will still have the dark color of the original female you like and the pullets three years latter wil be clean of defects. It should work that is what others did years ago to keep the color in the middle of the road


.http://www.rhodeislandredclub.eu/index.html

Great, thank you.

 

[FOGELLY]

The bottom one is lacing and I'm not sure why those hens would be showing lacing even if it is less defined.
I would keep a eye on them and breed them to a good clean hackled rooster when you start breeding for color.


Chris

Here ya go. Flash kind of changed the color.

 

[docdandc]

Nice to run into another Egghead. I have 2, a large and a medium. I've had the medium since 1999 and have been offered more than I paid for it a couple different times.

That makes three of us ! I have two of the large Big Green Eggs, the best. It makes the best BBQ chicken I have ever had. Hard to make a mistake with it. Just add chicken.
Dan

 

[OSUman]

Gary Underwood and Dick Horstman have good RC RIR.

If just getting started today, where would you recommend going to get RC RIR Heritage Birds?

 

[Robert Blosl]

This is a male I saw on the Rhode Island Red Club Face Book page. He is from Calif Ryan Carel . I like his type not Rose Comb but good bird.



Think his name is Aron. Lives in Texas


The best Rose Comb Reds I have seen is a fellow who lives in Texas and is the District Director of the Red Club. He got his from Adrian Radamaker and they looked like his old large fowl from ten years ago with Rose Combs on their heads. Long bodies not box type birds like some Rose Combs have. Heck I am thinking of getting five or ten chicks from him to cross onto my old Mohawk line that we have down here. Always wanted to do that.

I was washing chickens today and got two pullets that are three fourth mine and one fourth New York Reds. The two pullets did not have on tick of black in their necks. Good wing color good tail color. I then got Mr. New York out and washed his legs and want to take some pictures of him. I looked at his wing color the best wing I ever saw on a large fowl or a bantam. A little spill over in the primaries but what the heck maybe a half point cut. Then I lifted his but up and looked at the main tail feathers dark beetle green going to the shin and a half a inch into the skin. Never saw that on a large fowl or a bantam be for. Best colored Red bantam I ever saw. Neck clean no smut or slate in the under color. Nice head on him. See why he was Grand Champion of that show last year.

One of the pullets has a comb like his. Going to mate the two pullets back to the old male this spring. Going to have me some Yankee Mohawks next summer.

I got my poultry press yesterday saw that Gary Underwood is selling Reds again. Also, the lady who has been advertising his old reds is still got her ad in there. Does she still have his birds or is this a old ad that has to run out?

Nice pictures. bob

 

[Chris09]

Bob maybe you can answer this for me (you talk to far more people than I do), Why are so many Red breeders breeding for low to no tail angle in there fowl?

I see pictures here, on the Red Club Site and at some of the shows I been to and I think that would be a real nice bird if it had correct tail angle.


Thanks,
Chris