There has been a lot of debate among top UK breeders that breeding GL to SL makes the color muddy in the resulting offspring and future progeny. I'm not sure if that's true or not, but I have no reason to doubt it.
The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread
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I don't think creating colors or poultry genetics is a secrete at all. I think it helps people to breed in the right direction instead of making a genetic mess that will take them years and lots of culling to clean up, when asking the right question to begin with would have pointed them in the right direction. Since it takes at least 4 generations to get a finished product I don't think anyone will be competition to the new owner of the project.
When I am working on a project I would much prefer to trade birds with someone who is working on the same project so as not to strain the already fragile gene pool. I am by far not a geneticist but am certainly willing to answer any questions that I can. For novice breeders looking for genetic answers Jeremy on here is a great go to person. He is very knowledgeable and will help steer you in the right direction if he can (sorry Jeremy
) he has been a huge help to me over the years.
Yes, crossing Gold Lace and Silver Lace can produce smutty feathers. Unfortunately the Sliver Laced produced by crossing Silver Laced to Gold Laced can look Silver Laced in color but be split to Gold Laced. The goldish looking rooster in the pictures below was out of two Silver Laced parents and I am hearing of this happening more and more. I have also seen Silver Laced (Silverish.....) produced by two "Gold Laced" parents.
Sometimes it is necessary to make these crosses but always a good idea to keep good records.
(Sorry in advance, if this is inappropriate discussion on the forum, just thought it might help newbies to English Orps.)
It is easier to see the difference with the two of them side by side.
This rooster also produce off colored chicks.
When I am working on a project I would much prefer to trade birds with someone who is working on the same project so as not to strain the already fragile gene pool. I am by far not a geneticist but am certainly willing to answer any questions that I can. For novice breeders looking for genetic answers Jeremy on here is a great go to person. He is very knowledgeable and will help steer you in the right direction if he can (sorry Jeremy
Yes, crossing Gold Lace and Silver Lace can produce smutty feathers. Unfortunately the Sliver Laced produced by crossing Silver Laced to Gold Laced can look Silver Laced in color but be split to Gold Laced. The goldish looking rooster in the pictures below was out of two Silver Laced parents and I am hearing of this happening more and more. I have also seen Silver Laced (Silverish.....) produced by two "Gold Laced" parents.
Sometimes it is necessary to make these crosses but always a good idea to keep good records.
(Sorry in advance, if this is inappropriate discussion on the forum, just thought it might help newbies to English Orps.)
It is easier to see the difference with the two of them side by side.
This rooster also produce off colored chicks.
megalomaniac, I don't think you did anything wrong and it was nice of you to try to be helpful.
You absolutely did nothing wrong - everyone who knows me knows that I am very helpful. I think i have a fairly good reputation as an easy-going breeder/chicken hobbyist unlike some of the other more competitive breeders out there. I do all I can to help others out by giving advice, birds, and being around whenever needed. However, it is not my place to divulge information when I no longer breed/own the birds. If the new owner chooses to do so, he can.
I've been hatching silver lace since 2012 and I've never hatched a gold
Laced chick. I have gotten a few with double lacing and a few here and there that look more Columbian. But 97+% of the time they are uniform in color and pattern.
Oops, I also wanted to say I am not now or in the future working on Gold Laced Chocolates.
or on Gold Laced anything actually. I might buy some in the future......
So many projects and so little space.
So many projects and so little space.
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If I were to buy Lavender Orpington eggs, where would be the best place to buy them? I have a Lavender Roo and two hens right now, so I can breed them, but was hoping to fill my incubator in April with some big, fluffy Lav Orp eggs!
You should get Blacks instead... & breed them to your Lav roo.
The subsequent generations will look much better than their Lavender parents.
BTW, for everyone who's mentioned me when discussing genetics- I'm following the conversation and formulating thoughts... thank you all for your kind words about my "expertise" (<- in quotes because I'm by no way an expert, just someone who likes to learn, & is willing to help as much as I can!).
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I raise and sell lav. Orp eggs at $4 each which is the going price but have seen them go for more at auction.
For the lav. Orps you need to breed in a black every 2nd.generation or so.
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