The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

First state vet supply sells a kit for $52. It contains all you need, syringes, needles etc and dosage for 1000 birds that can be divided
into 4 dosages. One dosage is good for 2- 2-1/2 hours. You can refrigerate the other 3 dosages, until you need them. That's only $13 per dosage. Plus you can vaccinate older birds. To me, that's a small price to pay for the added security.
Can the vaccine ship over the ocean? If it has to be refrigerated, I don't think I could get it where I live... ( A ship takes a few days to get here, and a plane takes 5 hours minimum )
So *Im assuming* that would play a big factor into getting the vaccine, you would have to live on the mainland or somewhere where shipping is extra fast.
 
Can the vaccine ship over the ocean? If it has to be refrigerated, I don't think I could get it where I live... ( A ship takes a few days to get here, and a plane takes 5 hours minimum )
So *Im assuming* that would play a big factor into getting the vaccine, you would have to live on the mainland or somewhere where shipping is extra fast.
I vaccinate all my chicks with the Mareks vaccine, between all the wild birds here and the feral chickens, the risk is fairly high. I am not arguing for or against vaccination, just letting you know you can get it to Hawaii if that is what you choose. I get the vaccine from either Valley Vet or Jeffers Pet. They do ship to Hawaii, and the shipping is expensive. I try to get a few bottles at a time to make the shipping more cost effective. It does have to be refrigerated and they do ship it express with cold packs.
Most backyard breeders here though do not vaccinate their chicks and the only way to get vaccinated birds is via a hatchery. 😊
 
I vaccinate all my chicks with the Mareks vaccine, between all the wild birds here and the feral chickens, the risk is fairly high. I am not arguing for or against vaccination, just letting you know you can get it to Hawaii if that is what you choose. I get the vaccine from either Valley Vet or Jeffers Pet. They do ship to Hawaii, and the shipping is expensive. I try to get a few bottles at a time to make the shipping more cost effective. It does have to be refrigerated and they do ship it express with cold packs.
Most backyard breeders here though do not vaccinate their chicks and the only way to get vaccinated birds is via a hatchery. 😊
Wow, that is great to know! I didn't expect it to ship here. :eek::wee

I totally agree with you that backyard birds bring in diseases, half of my flock got fowl pox a while back. I will go check out the sites you mentioned, and even though I have been lucky not to deal with Mareks yet, it would still be smart to try and get my birds vaccinated.
 
Wow, that is great to know! I didn't expect it to ship here. :eek::wee

I totally agree with you that backyard birds bring in diseases, half of my flock got fowl pox a while back. I will go check out the sites you mentioned, and even though I have been lucky not to deal with Mareks yet, it would still be smart to try and get my birds vaccinated.
You are welcome. 😊 You can only vaccinate for Mareks when they are very young, a few days old at most (some say less than 24 hours, though I have vaccinated later if waiting for other chicks to hatch). Mareks is transmitted through the dander, so really hard to protect them from this after a few days of age. Once they have been outside, you can't vaccinate them, and also fairly impossible to vaccinate them if they are hatched by a broody and not in an incubator.
Fowl pox is transmitted by mosquitos and it is recommended to vaccinate for this yearly. It is very common in Hawaii, and any tropical enviroment (Florida also). The vaccine that I was able to get for Fowl pox is the wing web kind and birds need to be at least 8 weeks of age.
 
You are welcome. 😊 You can only vaccinate for Mareks when they are very young, a few days old at most (some say less than 24 hours, though I have vaccinated later if waiting for other chicks to hatch). Mareks is transmitted through the dander, so really hard to protect them from this after a few days of age. Once they have been outside, you can't vaccinate them, and also fairly impossible to vaccinate them if they are hatched by a broody and not in an incubator.
Fowl pox is transmitted by mosquitos and it is recommended to vaccinate for this yearly. It is very common in Hawaii, and any tropical enviroment (Florida also). The vaccine that I was able to get for Fowl pox is the wing web kind and birds need to be at least 8 weeks of age.
Had my first case of fowl pox last year. Two hens infected. I vaccinated the rest of the flock- wing web poking. I don’t plan to get more chicks for 2 years. Even then, I will vaccinate all at 8 weeks
 
Due to about a week of no SLO eggs (broken & eaten.... only wet, sticky shell fragments remained), I moved my laced orps into a little separated coop breeding coop.

Saturday (day of the move)= a whole, unbroken, perfectly clean egg. :)
Sunday = egg goo stain in the nest box, no shell left, then later broken egg shell remains found in the run
Today = broken egg on the hard wood in corner of nest (could have missed the bedding) Pic below

Does this look like an impact crack? or a pecking crack? The shell is not thin or brittle, but also not a thick pullet shell. My orps are excessively clumsy, so some occasional broken eggs are to be expected. I really hope they're not learning to eat their eggs.
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I had a whole reply written out and it just vanished. Quotes and all. How strange.

Anyway, it looks like an impact crack to me.
That's the consensus from many others as well. If it were pecked it would probably be completely gone. I got 2 un-cracked eggs and 6 cracked eggs this week. I need to figure out how to line the nest. It's small (12"x18") and only has a 2" lip. When I put a carboard box there, it just got flipped. Everything messy and crushed.

So far the best has been towels because they are easy to change. However, sometimes the girls push them to one side and lay on the wood. I'm thinking Astroturf or outdoor carpet - but only want a small piece.
 
I got TWO uncracked SLO eggs today.

I also got my Serama Mama (handicapped, broody hen) and her chicks outside for the 1st time!!!
I swear she's walking much better today. Must be the fresh air, sunshine, and grass. I decided to put their box in the garage tonight since it won't be too cold. It seems motherhood has given her reason to recover. (She flew out of the garage about 3 months ago and either smacked into the fence or landed and slipped on ice. Couldn't even sit up for a week. I had to hold her so she could eat/drink. Once she was eating on her own, I had a little hope. )
 

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