The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

i am doing just that Vicki, my vet was here month or so ago taught me AI..shes cornell grad..she said prety much same thing about no immunity to some diseases here and different parasites then their systems are used to..but overall they in a good environment do really well..ironic you brought that up..shes amazing person..they used to hatch rare endangered parrots, hawks, falcons ect..from around the world..she taught me to get a very large % of shipped eggs to hatch..

that reminds me, im sending medishippers to a girl, and a freind in the south..bought anew roll of tape, ive picked and picked at that roll all day long cant get it undone, have the receipt so returning it tommorrow and getting another brand..ive got to contact her and him and let them know they are coming, just had bad tape..

Thank you for posting about their immune systems. Now if I could learn the AI............
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...........I know horses and dogs, not a clue about roos.........I watched the video on the bantam collection. It was very good, just doesn't work quite the same on the these 12 pounders............I am working on DH to help me. He is still showing some resistance though
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Lovely Baby,
I hope everyone with English Os is keeping their babies on medicated feed through this horrible heat wave. Remember : these babies are being exposed to conditions and bugs that their parents never had to deal with, so they have no immunity, and no defenses to either the heat, or our US parasites. The combination call kill them in a hurry, and what a shame that would be.

The following link (to the USDA AG Research Services) is an interesting read and was published this June 2012. Approaches for Controlling Diseases of Poultry http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?seq_no_115=281465 Their findings in part:

reduced the gut lesions and improved body weight gains following challenge infection with avian coccidiosis. These results show the first scientific evidence that secondary metabolites of garlic such as PTS and PTSO are excellent dietary alternatives to antibiotics.

If someone is bored enough to read it, please share your thoughts.

Dee
 
The following link (to the USDA AG Research Services) is an interesting read and was published this June 2012. Approaches for Controlling Diseases of Poultry http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?seq_no_115=281465 Their findings in part:

reduced the gut lesions and improved body weight gains following challenge infection with avian coccidiosis. These results show the first scientific evidence that secondary metabolites of garlic such as PTS and PTSO are excellent dietary alternatives to antibiotics.

If someone is bored enough to read it, please share your thoughts.

Dee


Very good read
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interesting, the very old books I posted in here use garlic as thier parasite control , standard orpington book. and I beleive it is also in william cooks book. that was pretty much all they had at the time and swore by it..
 
HA! I found a pullet in another pen!
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what a treat! finding a female ..im still not sure what I have going on yet.

you can see where a first time EO owner like myself has problem telling boys from girls, especially when you have australorp in with them that there is no question what that is.and forgive my poor photography. they move fast.

this one looks female to me blue EO.



no guessing what this australorp is, all hatched same time. and for reniepeeps the mullberry comb willl be all red later this winter..very c
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bare bottom on one that looks female?? i sure never have a problem with aussies to tell



no idea , maybe male? time will tell for sure but its not easy, especially with the australorp in with them, he is an extra that will be going later on.





no idea whatsoever on this darker one. they are all sleepy , just got through with a romp around the yard the only way I could get any kind of pic was wait for them to nap.otherwise i get bits and peices of them

 
The following link (to the USDA AG Research Services) is an interesting read and was published this June 2012. Approaches for Controlling Diseases of Poultry http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?seq_no_115=281465 Their findings in part:

reduced the gut lesions and improved body weight gains following challenge infection with avian coccidiosis. These results show the first scientific evidence that secondary metabolites of garlic such as PTS and PTSO are excellent dietary alternatives to antibiotics.

If someone is bored enough to read it, please share your thoughts.

Dee

I did go back to med feed following TheDragonLady's advice. It just might be that sprinkling powdered garlic to their feed would be an added boost. Dog people have done this for years.
 
I use poulin feed.. and it has a natural MOS in it.... what ever that is. but between that and the powdered milk... I don't have any poop problems. I think the BIGGEST thing that should be addressed is cleanliness. Keep their dispensers clean and filled with fresh food and water daily. Keep the litter turned and replaced when it is too soiled....I sprinkle poultry dust around every time I put in new litter.. I worm and debug my birds twice a yr. I realize this method won't stop viruses and such.. but it does give them a better chance at a healthy life.

OH almost forgot.... I muck out the yards after every winter...If you have access to sand.... then put a fresh layer of it in their yard after you muck it out.. This will cut way back on parasites. :)
 
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I did go back to med feed following TheDragonLady's advice. It just might be that sprinkling powdered garlic to their feed would be an added boost. Dog people have done this for years.

I think I read somewhere the medicated feed can cause a vitamin B deficiency Don't quote me on that... but I think I did read that somewhere.
 
This is true. The anti-cocci meds in the feed will block the absorbtion of thiamine, and can result in "star gazers" in your flock. This is quickly remedied with a change to non-medicated feed and a vitamin boost.

The scary thing is that the deficiency can almost mimic some Marek's symtoms.
 
This is true. The anti-cocci meds in the feed will block the absorbtion of thiamine, and can result in "star gazers" in your flock. This is quickly remedied with a change to non-medicated feed and a vitamin boost.

The scary thing is that the deficiency can almost mimic some Marek's symtoms.

Really! I never knew that (about mimicking Marek's). Very good information. I love learning.....
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