The Legbar Thread!

[redchicken9]

My EE eggs are on the bluer side. The Cream Legbar eggs are smaller and a similar color but more intense. I find it difficult to capture the accurate colors with my digital camera.

Thanks! I'm guessing three CL in middle, plus EE on end? Did I get this right?

 

[Flaming Chicken]

Yes, and a Marans on the other end for contrast.

Thanks! I'm guessing three CL in middle, plus EE on end? Did I get this right?

 

[GaryDean26]

A lot of you have already seen the down color differences from my cockerels. They were so different when I started that I too want to see how they grew out. I need to get some more side-by-side photos of the grown cockerels, but will put something together in the next couple of days to post.

I have finished my photo comparison of my cream legbar cockerels. There are four cockerels in the comparison. One was jet black, one a dark charcoal, one a mix of tan/brown/gray, and one is blond. The Charcoal and blond chick were hatched at Greenfire farm. The other two were hatched by Samantha Kellermen at Altavista Farm in Driftwood, TX. She hatched 7 cockerels and 1 pullet from 18 eggs on that hatch (ouch!). When my wife called her about getting some of the extra cockerels and told her what we were working on she said she would save us the lightest and the darkest color cockerel from the hatch. Thanks Samatha for making this study possible.

The photo comparison is in a PDF file that is 11 pages long so instead of attempting to put in on the Legbar thread I added it to a location better suited for storing Legbar files.

The link is below (refreshed 8/29/12).
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0II-UA...lor/1 week to mature cockerel progression.pdf

 

[RyeRanch]

Thanks for posting all of those photos. It does not seem that there is a discernible link between down color and adult coloration from what I could see. I realize the sample size s small here, but are there any patterns you think have emerged?

 

[lonnyandrinda]

GaryDean could you double check that link? I can't get it to work. I know I can go to my yahoo groups and see it that way but other people might not know how to get to it.

Rinda

 

[Miss Molly]

GaryDean could you double check that link?  I can't get it to work.  I know I can go to my yahoo groups and see it that way but other people might not know how to get to it.

Rinda

X2 I couldn't see the pics either.

 

[GaryDean26]

X2 I couldn't see the pics either.

I refreshed the link. From past experience I know that the files on the site where these are stored are moved around a lot. I will check this for the next couple of days and refresh the link as necessary so that everyone who is interested can see this.

Question: Is there anyway to store or attach files on the BYC. I have tried to attach a file to the body of a reply on the threads as well as attached file through PM but always get error messages saying my setting don't allow this. If there is a way I can put files on the BYC I will. If not, I will continue to store Cream Legbar files in other locations.

Regards,

 

[GaryDean26]

Thanks for posting all of those photos. It does not seem that there is a discernible link between down color and adult coloration from what I could see. I realize the sample size s small here, but are there any patterns you think have emerged?

Yes, I noticed a few things and was hoping others would too (even though I know that is really hard to do from photos).

1) I don't think that the hackle color of the mature cockerels has anything to do with the down color. This I feel is governed completely by the cream gene (two copies, one copy, or no copies).

2) Both light colored down chicks had lighter colored head/faces in the juvenile stage while both the darker colored cockerels had darker heads/faces during the juvenile stage. I think this will be true in a large sample population too.

3) Both the light colored cockerels had a lot of chestnut color in the Juvenile stage while neither of the dark colored cockerels did. I need a larger population to draw any conclusions on this. The two dark colored cockerels could just lack the chestnut modifiers but it is also very possible that the darker chick down covers some of the chestnut color during the juvenile development.

4) I no longer have the blond cockerel from GFF, so he didn't make any of the final evaluations, but from the juvenile evaluations and evaluations of the lighter cockerel that was in the final evaluations it appeared that the lighter color down cockerels have lighter chestnut saddles than the dark downed cockerels (even though one of the darker cockerels had too dark of a hackle and one seem to have the about the same color hack as the lighter downed cockerel). So...again I need a larger population to test my theory, but think that the lighter color cockerels will across the board have a less vibrant color on the saddles than the dark down colored cockerels.

5) I need to check the under color of these cockerels to see what color they are. I haven't done this yet but am guessing that the light color down cockerels will have a cream under color and the dark down color cockerels a gray under color

6) The final comment is more for pullets. It appears that the lighter down color pullets will produce tan to gray crests while dark colored down pullets will produce black crests. The cockerels showed chestnut colored crests (again like the saddles more vibrant on the darker down cockerels), but I can really say much about the cockerel crests since only two in the final evaluation had visible crests.

On a personal note, the "B" cockerel who was the dark colored down cockerel from GFF is the only one that I have breed at this point. He has produced 100% dark colored down chicks from crosses with a dark colored down pullet and 75% dark 25% light from a cross with a light downed pullet. all of the pullets have produced cresting even though the cockerel has no visible cresting. I can't wait to see what the other two cockerels produce. I will be doing a lot of Cream Legbar hatches this fall.

 

[Miss Molly]

I refreshed the link.  From past experience I know that the files on the site where these are stored are moved around a lot.  I will check this for the next couple of days and refresh the link as necessary so that everyone who is interested can see this. 

Question: Is there anyway to store or attach files on the BYC.  I have tried to attach a file to the body of a reply on the threads as well as attached file through PM but always get error messages saying my setting don't allow this.  If there is a way I can put files on the BYC is will.  If not, I will continue to store Cream Legbar files in other locations.

Regards,

Thank you...

 

[Flaming Chicken]

2 of my 3 Pullets are laying. I have 4 eggs under one broody. We checked them last night for fertility at 5 days and they are all veining!!. I believe those 4 are all from 1 pullet. I put 5 more under the other broody last night. Those eggs are from 2 different pullets. We will check them in a few days also to see if both pullets are fertile. I still have 1 pullet not laying.