The Legbar Thread!

[normanack]

Cream Legbar x ? What color chicken would darken a CL like this?

Young male, sold shortly after picture was taken.

why is he darker than your average CL? thats two folds, first because he is now only heterozygous cream Ig+/ig and Heterozygous for the sex linked Barring gene(B/b+) which does not dilute the birds color like homozygous B/B males look(true CL, are homozygous)

 

[enola]

I second the rooster on a road trip........ but he sure is a looker!

 

[GaryDean26]

Perhaps a red too had a field trip???

I agree. The earlobes on a Cream Legbar are supposed to be white and this cockerel not showing very much white on his ear lobes. This cockerel (and his brothers that were culled) also are single barred which means that their father was a non-barred bird and therefor NOT a cream Legbar.

Note: The way the auto-sexing breeds work is that males, who carry two complete chromosomes, carry the barring gene on both Chromosomes, one barring gene from the sire and one barring gene from the dame. The females have one full chromosome and on sex-linked chromosome. The full chromosome that they inherited from the Father has the barring gene, but the sex-linked Chromosome from the mother does not have space for all the genes that are on the full chromosome and don't carry any of the sex-linked genes. So not barring gene it inherited from the mother. Pure breed Pullets therefore only have one barring gene and pure bred cockerels carry two barring genes. The double dosage of barring creates twice as much diluting in the cockerels as in the pullets which is why the cockerels have a large white patch on their head and a lighter color with blurred stripes, while the pullet has a small to no visible white dot, darker down color and clear stripes.

This cockerel is too dark to be carrying two barring gens. Birds with two barring gene have a grey body color and black and white stripes on their tail feathers. This cockerels has a black body color and black and grey striping on his tail.

No, he is NOT cream either. If he was Cream his hackle and saddle feathers would be yellow and the triangle on the end of his wings would be white rather than brown.

 

[racinchickins]

I agree. The earlobes on a Cream Legbar are supposed to be white and this cockerel not showing very much white on his ear lobes. This cockerel (and his brothers that were culled) also are single barred which means that their father was a non-barred bird and therefor NOT a cream Legbar.

Note: The way the auto-sexing breeds work is that males, who carry two complete chromosomes, carry the barring gene on both Chromosomes, one barring gene from the sire and one barring gene from the dame. The females have one full chromosome and on sex-linked chromosome. The full chromosome that they inherited from the Father has the barring gene, but the sex-linked Chromosome from the mother does not have space for all the genes that are on the full chromosome and don't carry any of the sex-linked genes. So not barring gene it inherited from the mother. Pure breed Pullets therefore only have one barring gene and pure bred cockerels carry two barring genes. The double dosage of barring creates twice as much diluting in the cockerels as in the pullets which is why the cockerels have a large white patch on their head and a lighter color with blurred stripes, while the pullet has a small to no visible white dot, darker down color and clear stripes.

This cockerel is too dark to be carrying two barring gens. Birds with two barring gene have a grey body color and black and white stripes on their tail feathers. This cockerels has a black body color and black and grey striping on his tail.

No, he is NOT cream either. If he was Cream his hackle and saddle feathers would be yellow and the triangle on the end of his wings would be white rather than brown.

Thanks GaryDean and everyone for the review and info. I wanted to know because he was sold as a Legbar, and I have two pullets that are hatchmates of his. My breeding roo is a full CCL from a local breeder who only has CCLs, so no issues there. I will mark the eggs from the two pullets so that I can tag any hatchlings to see what kind of offspring they throw. I'm hoping they turn out ok, as they look just like my other CCL hens.

 

[GaryDean26]

...My breeding roo is a full CCL from a local breeder who only has CCLs, so no issues there....

I re read this and it said that one of the cockerels was the normal color so that is good. It sounds that along with the lines not being fixed for cream, cresting, etc, that there may be some single-barred stock too in some of the flocks.

 

[lonnyandrinda]

Club members check your e-mail. Last night's meeting is already live for your viewing/reading pleasure.

 

[cjwaldon]

Dang, I missed the meeting . . . again . . .

 

[lonnyandrinda]

Awe sorry! This year we scheduled all the meetings in advance. I can resend you the schedule if you've misplaced the email.

 

[cjwaldon]

I got the email, thank you. My son came home for a vist on short notice last night. Normally I'm just swamped with work. Or I crash and burn (fall asleep) before the meeting starts.

 

[Triplell]

I missed it too. Finds could you send me an email with the dates please.