The Legbar Thread!

[dretd]

Don't have any pictures to add at the moment, but wanted to note a trend I am seeing. Since I have removed the last gold girl from my breeding flock 3-4 months ago I am seeing a lot less "cinnamon" tinted boys in my hatches. I see a pretty even split between light down and dark down, but only about 15% with the cinnamon tint on top of that. This is encouraging to me! Anyone else gotten to that point notice the same thing?

I think the topic of 'cinnamon colored boys came ups several months ago with the comment that some breeders in Great Britain thought that the cinnamon coloration indicated more gold, or was it more chestnut in the boys?

I know you are super busy ,but would you mind posting a picture of a 'light', a 'dark', and a 'cinnamon' colored chick so I can get an image of what cinnamon means when you get a chance?

 

[Flaming Chicken]

Very cute. I never tire of looking at cute baby pictures
How many total did you hatch? Are the boys separated out by down color (light/dark)?

Total of 6 female and 8 male.

I have 2 very light boys. I am watching them closely to see if they will have straighter combs than my rooster. I have 4 that are lighter than what I have experienced before and 2 that I will probably cull because of color.

Girls, one has a gold hue to her striping, 4 that have nice cream stripes and 1 that is much lighter than all the others.

I believe the lightest of the three are from my 2013 greenfire hen from last summer.

The others are from my Jordan farm hens. One of the Jordan farms girls has some yellow tone to her otherwise cream looking hackles, I wonder if she is the source of the gold looking stripes on the one pullet.

I don't have bands on them but plan to keep track of them over the next few weeks to see how they develop.

In the past I have hatched a lot of shipped eggs or gotten shipped chicks. This time I am seeing the results of the previous 2 generations of my own flock. It's very fun to see how they are turning out.

 

[lonnyandrinda]

I think the topic of 'cinnamon colored boys came ups several months ago with the comment that some breeders in Great Britain thought that the cinnamon coloration indicated more gold, or was it more chestnut in the boys?

I know you are super busy ,but would you mind posting a picture of a 'light', a 'dark', and a 'cinnamon' colored chick so I can get an image of what cinnamon means when you get a chance?

yes I will try to do that tomorrow or Monday.

 

[ChicKat]

Agreed that pictures are just adorable of your chicks --

Here is my set from Easter...cannot believe that they are this old -- and that I have more due to hatch in just 2-days.


Really happy with them for their health vigor and friendliness - 3 girls one boy---but the center chick has a contrast level that I haven't seen before--her face instead of being cream or buff colored is white....

She has Frida Kalo eyebrows - which is also a novelty - and a horn coloration on her beak...They are 3-weeks tomorrow and going outdoors when they are kicked out of the brooder if any hatch from the next batch.....

 

[Junibutt]

Just love your chicks~~
I have some that are just about identical!

Glad you asked about the growth chart. It will be a valuable tool for those of us who like to track the metrics. The Cream Legbar Club has a fill-in-the-blanks form on the website:

http://www.creamlegbarclub.com/13-chick-weight-track-entry-form

It has just been started this year. After your first entry if you decide to enter data, I will send you link to the spreadsheet that results from the form and you can track your chicks for a long time - and compare to others that are that age.

I had some very fast growing chicks that were little giants - but alas needed to process them due to the move and the timing and the space and coop builds. By three weeks, they were all 1/2 pound!! By 10-weeks, one was 3 1/2 pounds! Hefty little chicks IMO.

You may want to designate in your first entry - where you put the chick identifier (name or number) if you are using pounds or grams so when we do analysis once there is a lot of data...we can compare apples to apples....

Thanks! I made entries for all my 3 chicks in the form. However after reviewing other's responses I noticed that I am the only one measuring in grams. I can easily convert to pounds and enter if needed. Some of the initial entries are in oz not lbs so its not a good comparison. Is there anything I can do to help standardize it? Kindly send me the link to the spreadsheet which you mentioned, I would really appreciate it. I had created one myself but that only measures %age growth over last week. There is no comparison to standard.

 

[Junibutt]

Agreed that pictures are just adorable of your chicks --

Here is my set from Easter...cannot believe that they are this old -- and that I have more due to hatch in just 2-days.


Really happy with them for their health vigor and friendliness - 3 girls one boy---but the center chick has a contrast level that I haven't seen before--her face instead of being cream or buff colored is white....

She has Frida Kalo eyebrows - which is also a novelty - and a horn coloration on her beak...They are 3-weeks tomorrow and going outdoors when they are kicked out of the brooder if any hatch from the next batch.....

Really cute!

 

[ChicKat]

Thanks! I made entries for all my 3 chicks in the form. However after reviewing other's responses I noticed that I am the only one measuring in grams. I can easily convert to pounds and enter if needed. Some of the initial entries are in oz not lbs so its not a good comparison. Is there anything I can do to help standardize it? Kindly send me the link to the spreadsheet which you mentioned, I would really appreciate it. I had created one myself but that only measures %age growth over last week. There is no comparison to standard.

you got it---I just sent you the link!!

You have a great idea and too true - we need to standardize it. I Remember when this started were were 'experimenting' on how to approach it - so we threw it up against the wall to see if it would stick. The idea was that with use the needed changes would surface.

Seems like a confab would be in order for those of us using it - and those who wish to use it... Chime in those with a view to share....
When chicks are tiny - it's the math to do the fractions of a pound if we use pounds...I guess grams could become kilograms - but seems like we usually talk about chickens in pounds - and the USDA puts things in ounces like egg weights...etc.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/charts-and-quotes

I think our draft SOP references the weights of the chickens in pounds and it is in pounds in the UK too if my memory is correct....
http://www.creamlegbarclub.com/29-draft-standard-of-perfection-revision-2

So if you don't mind using pounds--- and could revise your entries that would be great...and we can advise future users to enter data in pounds...Example: for 100 grams = 0.220462 pounds....

Which reminds me -- my older CLs were weighed today - so I could enter their weights on the chart...whoo HOO -- Chart goes up to 36 months if you page down long enough---so older chickens can be entered too.... I could put in their 2 1/2 year old weights a month early and revise if they change...

Here is what I propose, I will put 'please enter weight in pounds' on the form - and there will be no need to back track and recalibrate - and it's all thanks to your good ideas.

THANKS!!!

 

[Junibutt]

I am keeping records in both oz and grams so its easy for me to revise. I don't know how google spreadsheets work, however if it was a regular excel sheet, we could have provided a drop-down option of oz vs lbs. & if it was oz, it would automatically convert to lbs. There is another option if that works with the sheet, we can have a separate slot for lbs and oz. For example 2.2 oz can be entered as 0 lbs and 2.2 oz and it will self convert into decimals itself on the sheet. The actual entry being 0.1375 lb or 0.14 lbs approximately. Just throwing ideas in!

Once we have standard entries, we can have an average calculated of the entries made and that would give a sense of where we stand. I will try to find a standard template somewhere if it exists and forward it to you for review.

 

[TwoBit]

A pic of my little girlie... the first from my eggs!

 

[BCollie]

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