The Legbar Thread!

[Thespoiledchicken]

Hi Trish---

they are pretty and look really healthy. Nice bright eyes. ALSO-- I think that the crest on my cockerel was slower to appear, and it is smaller and less noticable than the one on my pullet.

Thanks ChicKat!

It does seem that the boy is maturing slower than the girls so I still have hope for his crest. I just banded him so I don't lose track in case he has a growth spurt. They are all calm gentle birds- very sweet!


Trish

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

I communicated with Rob Patterson in Austrelia about 2 months ago. He is trying to recreate Cream Legbars from scratch. He was jeolouse that we had UK lines imported to the US by Greenfire. He has done hundres of hours of research on the breed and was in the process of trying to find an Austrlian line of Aracauna's with the cream color gene to create his Cream Legbar line with. I may be missing something, but was guessing that he was starting this project becuase there weren't any Cream Legbars in the Down Under.

Maybe it was somewhere in the UK? I could have swore it was AUS that had them. Pr maybe it is just a basic gold legbar type, I will have to check again

 

[Flaming Chicken]

I remember reading on one of the cream legbar threads where somebody posted they had cream Legbars in Australia for years. I can't find the post now. Maybe that is what you read.

 

[ChicKat]

Thanks ChicKat!

It does seem that the boy is maturing slower than the girls so I still have hope for his crest. I just banded him so I don't lose track in case he has a growth spurt. They are all calm gentle birds- very sweet!


Trish

Hi Trish---

I need to put some updated pictures in. I was out of town for a week---and what a growth spurt from my guy. Not only that but he is now ready to breed my little pullet, and she is NOT ready. So, he is ahead of her in maturity...now.

 

[Phage]

I need to put some updated pictures in. I was out of town for a week---and what a growth spurt from my guy. Not only that but he is now ready to breed my little pullet, and she is NOT ready. So, he is ahead of her in maturity...now.

I got day olds just after Christmas and the boy is breeding EVERYTHING with great success and he is not 4 months old. The pullet is way smaller and NO where near laying.
Guess we will be making super blue EE's with the wheaten ameraucana girls for the next few months.

Actually his first ofspring (a brabanter x CL cross) just hatched out and is a dark chocolate colored with a small bright white spot on its head so am very interested to see if that cross retains the sex linking.

 

[GaryDean26]

I did some studying on the sex-links a few weeks ago when I was asked if Cream Legbar Males that over Black Copper Marans females would produce sex-linked off-spring.

What I have found is that any gene that is located on the Z chromosome can be used for a sex link. this included barring (B and b), silver (S and s) , foot color (Id, and its corresponding alleles), slow feathering (K and its alleles), etc.

The trick is for the Male to be homogygus for the resessive gene (the lowcase letter). This would be b/b, s/s, etc. If the males is B/b, S/s, B/B, S/S, etc, the link won't work. If the father doesn't have the silver gene (s/s) and is red and the mother is silver (S/-) then the male off-spring will be all Siver (S/s) and the femlae off-spring will all be red (s/-).

Note: Sex-links do not breed true. Bother x Sister parings would have both male and female of spring of both colors. In the Cream Legbar the Autosexing comes from the barring gene. The double barring in the males (B/B) over the duckwing pattern shows up differently than the single barring of the females (B/-).

The barbanter appears to be a spangled breed and so any barring that it might have would be an autosomal barring (caused bu a combination of modfiers rather than a single gene) and would not be sexlinked.

The Legbar Cock X Barbanter Hen would be [B/B] x [b/-]. so the males would be [B/b] which would be single barred and the females would be [B/-] also single barred. I have been wrong before, but this does not look like it should produce a sexlink.

By-the-way...what color Barbanters do you have? Cream?

 

[Phage]

Wow!! Thanks for all that great info.
I just have a single cream brabanter who is indeed spangled. They are really beautiful.
I also have a mottled (exchequer) leghorn hen. Different genes I know as the mottle is autosomal recessive. He eggs x CL are due to hatch soon as well. I don't suppose they are likely to be sex linked?

 

[ChicKat]

I got day olds just after Christmas and the boy is breeding EVERYTHING with great success and he is not 4 months old. The pullet is way smaller and NO where near laying.
Guess we will be making super blue EE's with the wheaten ameraucana girls for the next few months.

Actually his first ofspring (a brabanter x CL cross) just hatched out and is a dark chocolate colored with a small bright white spot on its head so am very interested to see if that cross retains the sex linking.

That is sooo facinating. Mine was hatched Jan 9th so nearly the same age as yours. Post pictures when you can.... BTW --> I LOVE your avatar Exchequer Leghorn is BEAUTIFUL!!!-- and also Love SD. Used to live in O-side.

 

[ChicKat]

Here is my 'little' guy. He will be 16 weeks old on Monday.

I was gone for a week, and there is nothing like being gone to see how much little ones have grown.
The white sickle feathering in his tail is new...his wattles much bigger as are his ear lobes...and his comb is quite large. Not showing here---he is all legs -- tall and wiry. He is fiesty but once caught and held very sweet.

 

[redchicken9]

Looks like a nice straight comb on him.