The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

[aoxa]

I was not refering to that post at all

Not everyone is as good of a shot as you

Many do not have the common sense that you do either with these things.

I am not against guns.

But I do think that a lot of people do not practice gun safety properly. So shooting through a window is unlikely. But I've heard of these stories..

 

[lalaland]

thought we were doing good-had not be hit by the bobcat in over 3 weeks-till yesterday. Got 10 new pullets(since flock was down to 6) and cat came all the way in yard and got my only RIR pullet. must have happened around 4 pm. I went to garden to get some basil for dinner and saw a big pile of feathers and followed a trail of dropped feather off over the fence into the woods. had to have been the bob cat. Later when I put the girls in for the nite in their coop and gave them some food, my husband said how nice I was to be fattening-up the hens for the cat! guess a hazzard of free ranging

flagirl, that is totally sad. yeah, I gave up on free ranging for that reason (except it is coyotes, dogs, and foxes in my area) and use a huge run (more sf than my house!) and let them out when a) I am home and b) the garden is either fenced or not in production.

Not everyone is as good of a shot as you

Many do not have the common sense that you do either with these things.

I am not against guns.

But I do think that a lot of people do not practice gun safety properly. So shooting through a window is unlikely. But I've heard of these stories..

here people sometimes hunt from their cars on the dirt roads. not legal.
also, no way would you have to entice anything to your yard here, it (deer, bears, fox, turkeys, sandhill cranes) is just here! or passing thru...and you know when they are there.
not a hunter here, but think it is a little like eating your chickens. that meat had a good life, versus what you get in the grocery.

 

[lalaland]

good lord, justine, you are going to have your very own petting zoo! alpaca, goats, chickens, ducks, turkeys....wow! you and Susan are going to be busy - uh- busier girls!

 

[aoxa]

flagirl, that is totally sad. yeah, I gave up on free ranging for that reason (except it is coyotes, dogs, and foxes in my area) and use a huge run (more sf than my house!) and let them out when a) I am home and b) the garden is either fenced or not in production.

here people sometimes hunt from their cars on the dirt roads. not legal.
also, no way would you have to entice anything to your yard here, it (deer, bears, fox, turkeys, sandhill cranes) is just here! or passing thru...and you know when they are there.
not a hunter here, but think it is a little like eating your chickens. that meat had a good life, versus what you get in the grocery.

I am not against hunting at all, so I hope that's not how I came across. We have a lot of hunters in the family. Moose, deer, rabbits, etc. I will readily eat moose. As long as it's not ground moose. Yuck.

But I do think there are laws about firing a gun in a back yard. Rural or not. At least there are laws about it HERE.

I'd like to be able to shoot a predator that comes onto my property, but it is illegal.

 

[aoxa]

good lord, justine, you are going to have your very own petting zoo! alpaca, goats, chickens, ducks, turkeys....wow! you and Susan are going to be busy - uh- busier girls!

Yep! Don't forget geese or rabbits or cats or dogs. lol

We are getting two new kittens shortly. How are your kittens doing by the way?

 

[salt and pepper]

know your target and beyond. Rule number 1.

So even if allowed by law to hunt in your backyard....it depends. Anyone with an 1/2 an ounce of common sense won't shoot in the direction of their house or their neighbors house. If your backyard is nothingness.... but along side of you is houses, and the law in the area allows it there is nothing unsafe about hunting in your backyard. IF you know your target and beyond. If you don't don't shoot. Common sense stuff

You haven't met the people that hunt around here... There is no common sense, lol. They are on a hunting club, and terrorize the locals that LIVE on the road, shoot randomly, and drive recklessly.. Thankfully no pets have been shot, but bullets have come within feet of the house across the street, so it's not a possibility.. sigh.

 

[stonykill]

perhaps the neighbor cannot hunt them where they are. Maybe they are trying to lure them out of safety.

Not everyone is as good of a shot as you

Many do not have the common sense that you do either with these things.

I am not against guns.

But I do think that a lot of people do not practice gun safety properly. So shooting through a window is unlikely. But I've heard of these stories..

There simply once again is not enough data here to make any kind of judgement call. Which is why my 1st reply was full of "if's". I do not personally know the property , I am not looking at a topo map of the land so I can not definatively say it is safe. Again, why my reply was full of "if's".
Not enough data

I do know in parts of the USA and in a smaller part inmy part a lot of people make a good part of their income killing coyote's. And you do it with lures, calls and by being a GOOD shot. Coyote's are fast, smart and small. And are usually a good distance away from you when you kill them.
Not sure why but unless I post pictures on this thread I have to defend my generic responses. Guess I should just stick to cute pics and keep to myself

 

[aoxa]

There simply once again is not enough data here to make any kind of judgement call. Which is why my 1st reply was full of "if's". I do not personally know the property , I am not looking at a topo map of the land so I can not definatively say it is safe. Again, why my reply was full of "if's".
Not enough data

I do know in parts of the USA and in a smaller part inmy part a lot of people make a good part of their income killing coyote's. And you do it with lures, calls and by being a GOOD shot. Coyote's are fast, smart and small. And are usually a good distance away from you when you kill them.
Not sure why but unless I post pictures on this thread I have to defend my generic responses. Guess I should just stick to cute pics and keep to myself

I'm not questioning your reasoning Tom.



I guess I don't have a lot of faith in others putting my safety first with backyard hunting.

 

[lalaland]

ok, I just have to whine again about those expensive chicks,....the ones that were supposed to be sfh (3 of them), icelandics (4), cream legbars (4)and superblue layers.(4).

The hatching woman must have gotten them ALL mixed up. There were 4 cream legbar chicks - they are easy to identify and all were pullets. If you aren't familiar with them, they can be 100% sexed at hatch because the color patterns are very different in girls versus boys. one died. of the three remaining, well one has developed a rose comb - ???? so I did more research and what a surprise, legbars don't have rose combs. And yesterday I thought I heard a crow...and today the largest "cream legbar" with the rose comb started crowing. NOT a legbar (yup, I am shouting). He is 2-3 times the size of the other legbars that are actually legbars for real, so I am guessing she grabbed the wrong one out of the swimming pools full of all kinds of chicks. This roo has to be older than 4 weeks. I do have two legbar pullets, I can tell from the coloring they are developing.

and the bantam chick (not what I ordered) looks to be a roo.

And I have been slowly getting the hens treated for feathermites, and found some also have those lice that lay nits on the feathers around the vent - first time for that too. 9 hens to treat, did 3 the first night, 3 tonight, and 3 tomorrow. wait a few days and do it again! It is hard to get the hens, so I take them off the roost at night when I get home from work, so I can't get them all done because it gets too dark and there is no light in the coop. I smell like nustock, and am going to have to make up a batch with the sulpher that is supposed to arrive tomorrow.

I bought cod liver oil today and am going to start adding some to the feed for both chicks and for the hens. Going to lay a thin bead of it on the feed.

thanks for letting me rant! only a chicken person would get any of this!

 

[lalaland]

Yep! Don't forget geese or rabbits or cats or dogs. lol

We are getting two new kittens shortly. How are your kittens doing by the way?

they are doing fantastic. I really lucked out, Lucy is the sweetest little lover, big purr and into everything. Her real name is Trouble. Mia is sure she is starving all the time but lets Lucy push her out of the way and eat her food. Mia is adapting to indoor life - I have a big porch with floor to ceiling screens, and she practically lives out there.

and you didn't come across anti- hunting to me.