The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

[tjo804]

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Thank you this helps!
Boy except for the weight gain that Calf Manna sounds like something I should be eating!
I am going to give this a try and see what happens it sounds like a better system my FF is not bad but like you said I think something is not agreeing with the process.
and it wont take any more time to just add the dry layena to the serving bowl and stir it up before I feed it to the Ladies.

 

[Leahs Mom]

LM-

cheap sturdy pred proof

1 4x8 sheet of plywood cut in half
6 cinder blocks
2 scrap pieces of plywood for supports in the inside and for the tips of the triangle
1 roll of hard wire
2 2x2x8

I made an A frame for the birds as a temp hold. I now use it all the time.

I will take pictures later but you can immagine it..

Thanks. I will look forward to photos since I'm not real great at picturing things.


@armorfirelady
I've been reading about antibiotic resistant bacteria. Something that I found interesting (and almost seems counter-intuitive) is that raw honey (real...not from the grocery store...preferably centrifuge extracted without heat...from bees that are allowed to eat their own honey, not fed other items) is supposed to work 100% of the time in surgical wounds to take combat bacteria - even anti-biotic resistant. I think I'm going to try that for wounds on me or my animals from now on rather than some of the other things we tend to use.

I did try making a "blue kote" knockoff solution by mixing honey, a few drops of lemon essential oil, and a little blue food coloring (made from natural flower/veg. source). I thought I'd have it ready in case I needed to put some on an area that would camo in case of other birds picking. I haven't use it yet as I haven't had a need but I do have it ready.

I keep thinking that they'd want to eat it, though. So that may backfire if I'm trying to camo something. I guess I'll find out some day.

 

[Leahs Mom]

Ankle is the worst sprain I've ever had. You don't realize how much you depend on your body until it doesn't work. I look like this guy.

(And I"m not even a guy...)

 

[heartsizedfarm]

Ankle is the worst sprain I've ever had.  You don't realize how much you depend on your body until it doesn't work.   I look like this guy.  

(And I"m not even a guy...)

Shame. How did you sprain your ankle? Impossible to do barn chores I guess. Hope you have some help.

 

[Leahs Mom]

Was carrying out a bucket of water to the hen shed. I had removed one of the block steps and forgot it wasn't there as the bucket I was carrying was blocking my view. When I stepped on the "invisible step that wasn't there anymore", I came crashing down to ground level with my ankle between the shed and the lower level of blocks. Hit my shins on the floor edge of the shed, and the water from the bucket went flying onto the rooster and 2 pullets that were in the separation pen.

They thought I was attacking them and they went nuts.

It was quite a scene.

 

[subhanalah]

Thanks.  I will look forward to photos since I'm not real great at picturing things. 


@armorfirelady

I've been reading about antibiotic resistant bacteria.  Something that I found interesting (and almost seems counter-intuitive) is that raw honey (real...not from the grocery store...preferably centrifuge extracted without heat...from bees that are allowed to eat their own honey, not fed other items) is supposed to work 100% of the time in surgical wounds to take combat bacteria - even anti-biotic resistant.  I think I'm going to try that for wounds on me or my animals from now on rather than some of the other things we tend to use. 

I did try making a "blue kote" knockoff solution by mixing honey, a few drops of lemon essential oil, and a little blue food coloring (made from natural flower/veg. source).  I thought I'd have it ready in case I needed to put some on an area that would camo in case of other birds picking.  I haven't use it yet as I haven't had a need but I do have it ready.

I keep thinking that they'd want to eat it, though.  So that may backfire if I'm trying to camo something.  I guess I'll find out some day.

gentian violet is what's used in Blue Kote. Perhaps you could use that to make a homemade, knockoff version? Gotta be careful though, it has carcinogenic behaviors in strong doses/long periods of time.

 

[Leahs Mom]

Yes..the GV is what gives blue kote the anti-fungal properties. It used to be used in treatment for oral thrush in babies.

So when I make the honey/lemon oil blue stuff, I'm making it knowing that it doesn't have the GV. I was just adding the blue to help camo if there was any redness to a wound so that others wouldn't peck at it...so the blue in my stuff is only for camo rather than the anti-fungal.


I have regular blue kote on my shelf but I know that it isn't approved for use in poultry so I decided not to use it on them. There are enough other items that can be used safely as anti-fungal/anti-bacterial without risking it.

 

[hellbender]

Thank you this helps!
Boy except for the weight gain that Calf Manna sounds like something I should be eating!
I am going to give this a try and see what happens it sounds like a better system my FF is not bad but like you said I think something is not agreeing with the process.
and it wont take any more time to just add the dry layena to the serving bowl and stir it up before I feed it to the Ladies.

Even if it did take a bit more time...Things need to be done to keep our birds in good health.

Good luck. I hope it helps. I'm thinking your birds were not getting enough Cal. by picking

through the FF.

 

[Phoenixxx]

Thanks.  I will look forward to photos since I'm not real great at picturing things. 


@armorfirelady

I've been reading about antibiotic resistant bacteria.  Something that I found interesting (and almost seems counter-intuitive) is that raw honey (real...not from the grocery store...preferably centrifuge extracted without heat...from bees that are allowed to eat their own honey, not fed other items) is supposed to work 100% of the time in surgical wounds to take combat bacteria - even anti-biotic resistant.  I think I'm going to try that for wounds on me or my animals from now on rather than some of the other things we tend to use. 

I did try making a "blue kote" knockoff solution by mixing honey, a few drops of lemon essential oil, and a little blue food coloring (made from natural flower/veg. source).  I thought I'd have it ready in case I needed to put some on an area that would camo in case of other birds picking.  I haven't use it yet as I haven't had a need but I do have it ready.

I keep thinking that they'd want to eat it, though.  So that may backfire if I'm trying to camo something.  I guess I'll find out some day.

One of my hens that survived a dog attack had a huge gaping bite wound. It wound up getting infected. The only thing I found on the net that seemed safe to use on the exposed tissues was unpasteurized honey. The wound started out a good one inch deep by one inch diameter. I pour honey into the wound twice a day and every two days I manually remove all the garbage material. It's been three weeks now, but guess what - it's working! It's now only a centimeter deep by less than a centimeter diameter! As for eating it off herself, she doesn't. She does, however, take bites off the spoon while I'm drizzling the honey into her hole.

As for an internal antibiotic to keep her from going septic, I've been spiking her breakfast with copious amounts of turmeric. Know what? She is not in the least bit sick and never showed any signs if internal infection/blood poisoning from day one!

 

[heartsizedfarm]

One of my hens that survived a dog attack had a huge gaping bite wound. It wound up getting infected. The only thing I found on the net that seemed safe to use on the exposed tissues was unpasteurized honey. The wound started out a good one inch deep by one inch diameter. I pour honey into the wound twice a day and every two days I manually remove all the garbage material. It's been three weeks now, but guess what - it's working! It's now only a centimeter deep by less than a centimeter diameter! As for eating it off herself, she doesn't. She does, however, take bites off the spoon while I'm drizzling the honey into her hole.

As for an internal antibiotic to keep her from going septic, I've been spiking her breakfast with copious amounts of turmeric. Know what? She is not in the least bit sick and never showed any signs if internal infection/blood poisoning from day one!

And she'll eat the turmeric? Is it sprinkled on her dry feed or mixed into wet feed? I've used it as an anti inflammatory for horses but not thought of it yet for chooks. Good suggestion.