Thanks lalaland, scary stuff, it is crazy what goes on in our world, where making money is more important than caring for the earth and its treatment. I have always tried to live as clean as possible, but I still went through 2 kinds of cancers and am trying more than ever to try to clean up my environment, we have given rid of Teflon pans and their poison and am working on ridding ourselves of as much plastic as possible, but that has become hard, I miss the days of glass jars. Most everything can be done in a natural way.