The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

[armorfirelady]

I found this link on another forum here. Has great info on how to tell your hen is laying or not. Great for us newbies

http://albc-usa.org/documents/ALBCchicken_assessment-2.pdf

 

[aaggjg]

As soon as I heard your symptoms I said, yep that is a fungal infection. Gigi had that as well. That is what the Oxine cured. 

Justine how did administer the Oxine?? I misted Peekaboo with Oxine but it didn't help ... Maybe my humidifier isn't fine enough. Did you also put it in her water???

My bumblefoot girl is a lot worse today. Turns out both feet have scabs .... I soaked them again last night and put some magnesium sulfate on them to try and draw out the infection. She didn't come out of the coop this morning and was limping much worse when I got her out & panting..... I had to leave and she was in the nest box laying ... So I guess I'll check her as soon as I get home. Any suggestions???

Thanks!

 

[Sally8]

Delisha - We have a wonderful nurse with your name. I asked her if she liked chickens. lol

It's nice to see the sunshine today. Wish I had some ambition.

I'm trying to decide what hens to get rid of. I think I'll start with 6 and then reshuffle and sell again. These last 8 were all BCM and I was so happy. Hopefully, 5 are pullets. I bought 6 pullets from a local hatchery and they said that if they any turned out to be cockerel, I could have a replacement. Well, one is crowing and the hatchery is over an hour away. He is beautiful, something called an Amberlink. I was told that it was very rare. Hah!! Very funny. Anyway, he is pretty and I hate to just eat him.

 

[armorfirelady]

Delisha - We have a wonderful nurse with your name. I asked her if she liked chickens. lol

It's nice to see the sunshine today. Wish I had some ambition.

I'm trying to decide what hens to get rid of. I think I'll start with 6 and then reshuffle and sell again. These last 8 were all BCM and I was so happy. Hopefully, 5 are pullets. I bought 6 pullets from a local hatchery and they said that if they any turned out to be cockerel, I could have a replacement. Well, one is crowing and the hatchery is over an hour away. He is beautiful, something called an Amberlink. I was told that it was very rare. Hah!! Very funny. Anyway, he is pretty and I hate to just eat him.

I think you have chickens coming out of your ears lol
I would keep the BCM's but thats just me & the BR ......oh and the Edies The ones I got from you are so healthy & nice. Esp Edie. I never knew hens could be so personable

She is my shadow when I walk into the run or coop. She knows the big girls wont go after her when she is near me. And when she is allowed in the veggie garden she knows I will sneak her cherry tomatoes

 

[aoxa]

Justine how did administer the Oxine?? I misted Peekaboo with Oxine but it didn't help ... Maybe my humidifier isn't fine enough. Did you also put it in her water???

My bumblefoot girl is a lot worse today. Turns out both feet have scabs .... I soaked them again last night and put some magnesium sulfate on them to try and draw out the infection. She didn't come out of the coop this morning and was limping much worse when I got her out & panting..... I had to leave and she was in the nest box laying ... So I guess I'll check her as soon as I get home. Any suggestions???

Thanks!

I administered the oxine in a hunmidifier and took a very fine mist bottle and sprayed it in his face as well. Susan would hold him I would administer.

I put him in a kennel, put a sheet over the kennel and the front of the humidifier. So it worked as a hot box I guess you could call it.

http://www.nsppa.ca/documents/respitory_fungal_infection.pdf
Check this link out about the respiratory fungal infections. Thankfully this is what Gigi had, as I was a nervous wreck. I thought I brought home CRD somehow. Even with how careful I was. Not a single other bird had it though, so I ruled it out.

PS To answer your question as to why it may not have worked:

The only time Oxine won't work is if it's administered after the bird's own defenses have 'walled off' the fungus (put a coating over it to isolate it from the healthy cells). If this happens, the Oxine cannot make direct contact with the fungus, and therefore, cannot kill it. It is then up to the bird's own defenses to recover.

 

[delisha]

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[mikkles]

I administered the oxine in a hunmidifier and took a very fine mist bottle and sprayed it in his face as well. Susan would hold him I would administer.

I put him in a kennel, put a sheet over the kennel and the front of the humidifier. So it worked as a hot box I guess you could call it.

http://www.nsppa.ca/documents/respitory_fungal_infection.pdf
Check this link out about the respiratory fungal infections. Thankfully this is what Gigi had, as I was a nervous wreck. I thought I brought home CRD somehow. Even with how careful I was. Not a single other bird had it though, so I ruled it out.

not sure what Oxine is, but may need it sometime..is this a warm humidifier? or cold one?

 

[aoxa]

That link does not work

The entire article:



Quote: Once the birds inhale Oxine, it works as a disinfectant to kill the growing fungus in the trachea and lungs by direct contact. Once killed, the fungus is gone forever from the bird's system and eliminates any further irritation from the infection. The only time Oxine won't work is if it's administered after the bird's own defenses have 'walled off' the fungus (put a coating over it to isolate it from the healthy cells). If this happens, the Oxine cannot make direct contact with the fungus, and therefore, cannot kill it. It is then up to the bird's own defenses to recover.
At prescribed dilutions, Oxine is so safe that you could use it as a mouthwash! Oxine is commonly used to treat human and animal drinking water and is 'cutting‐edge' treatment in the egg producing and commercial poultry industry. Those that are aware of Oxine, fog their flocks once a week as part of their preventative routine. (Oxine has also been proven to virtually eliminate avian influenza from a select group of turkey houses in the upper Midwest.)
Oxine disinfects better than chlorine bleach and kills all known bacteria, molds, spores, and viruses. It will even kill the airborne mold spores as you fog. It also has a residual disinfecting effect when you fog the entire coop or pen in addition to the birds, and it makes a good egg sanitizer. (Getting the fog into the birds' drinking water or feed while fogging is nothing to worry about, and is probably beneficial.)
Molds, mold spores, and fungus play a key role in bird loss. But most breeders have come to expect a certain number of unexplained losses among their youngsters. This is especially true among waterfowl breeders. You know the old saying 'don't count your chickens before they've hatched'? Well, I like to add to that 'don't count your ducklings until they're 2 weeks old'. If there's going to be a serious developmental problem within the waterfowl, it usually shows itself within 2 weeks in the brooder. You shouldn't have losses after 2 weeks that are unexplainable. If you do, you've probably got an upper respiratory fungal infection.
Article reproduced with permission of Shagbark Bantams

 

[Leahs Mom]

I had a very endearing experience with "Rooster Boy" today.

I was outside picking cucumbers. They are right over the fence from the chicken's range area so there was a congregation of chickens on the other side of the fence hoping I'd throw something over.

Waaaay over in the "kennel run" that's attached to the hen house was one of the pullets (Miss Sweden). She wanted to come over where the rest of the congregation was gathered. Now Miss Sweden has always been very skittish about running from the pen to the range area as it is open skys for a good long way before she feels safe. Usually when she goes through that space, she squaks loudly and half flies through there very nervously.

So...she lets out this "distress call" just before she's about to make a break for it and Rooster Boy's head snaps up. He literally SPRINTS a long distance to get to the gate opening where she is. When he gets there, he escorts her over to the congregation.

Now y'all have probably seen that before. But that was the first time I'd seen him doing the "gallant" thing. I've seen him "on watch" and saying warnings...just never saw anything as dramatic as that.

 

[Leahs Mom]

Aoxa -
I've been thinking about that Oxine. If it works like that, would people be able to use it to get rid of candida?

Perhaps, since candida isn't usually located in the lungs, the inhalation wouldn't help. But what about topically in area like athlete's foot, thrush, Toenail fungus, etc....