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Thanks, cap and penny. That was pretty much our opinion also but what to do about it is the big problem. I have no problem with prayer. What is the old joke? He who has never prayed has never taken a math test? For the most part we like all the people. Some travel quite a ways to attend and it's a good group that is always willing to help one another out. But other than not attending, we see no resolution without stepping on someone's toes.
 
microchick said:
Thanks, cap and penny. That was pretty much our opinion also but what to do about it is the big problem. I have no problem with prayer. What is the old joke? He who has never prayed has never taken a math test? For the most part we like all the people. Some travel quite a ways to attend and it's a good group that is always willing to help one another out. But other than not attending, we see no resolution without stepping on someone's toes.
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Maybe they need a suggestion box.
 
microchick said:
My mom died without ever using her china. She would always say 'I'll get it out when and only when the president comes to dinner'. So sad. It's made 4 moves with only one cup getting broken. I was able to find a replacement on Ebay and yes, once a year I get it out and use it and no, the president has yet to show up for dinner. I have no idea who I will pass it on to.

I'll try to get caught up at some point. Today was the monthly meeting of our HAM club..

Something happened there today and I'm hoping I can get y'all's opinion of if what happened would make you a bit uncomfortable. The club is public, multi county, not held in a church but in a county training center. Today the club president asked another person to lead the group in an opening prayer. I am a person of faith, safe to say that most there are.But my faith is a private thing that I choose to show in charitable acts towards others.

There is a small group in the club that is of a faith that isn't of my own choosing and this is the group that is doing this. Others have confided that they are uncomfortable by the 'opening of the meeting with a prayer'. It might be considered a nice touch but what if not everyone is Christian? What if there is a Hebrew there? Is there a time and place for such things? People have told me that they wish they wouldn't do that and that in deed, there is a time and place, like the beginning of a meal, etc for prayer but not at the beginning of a public meeting.

What do you think?
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As long as all religions present are not for killing each other....

I see no issue. I rather think it is nice to know that they believe something. :idunno

I have been to several different gathering type things where someone prays to start things off...and it has never been someone who is a member of the religion that I am a member of... .... but it hasn't ever bothered me... I pray quietly in my own way until they are done, and rather hope that those of various faiths will do the same...

It is good to take a moment to pause and think things through...get your mind and thoughts in order...before starting a joint activity. :idunno
 
microchick said:
My mom died without ever using her china. She would always say 'I'll get it out when and only when the president comes to dinner'. So sad. It's made 4 moves with only one cup getting broken. I was able to find a replacement on Ebay and yes, once a year I get it out and use it and no, the president has yet to show up for dinner. I have no idea who I will pass it on to.

I'll try to get caught up at some point. Today was the monthly meeting of our HAM club..

Something happened there today and I'm hoping I can get y'all's opinion of if what happened would make you a bit uncomfortable. The club is public, multi county, not held in a church but in a county training center. Today the club president asked another person to lead the group in an opening prayer. I am a person of faith, safe to say that most there are.But my faith is a private thing that I choose to show in charitable acts towards others.

There is a small group in the club that is of a faith that isn't of my own choosing and this is the group that is doing this. Others have confided that they are uncomfortable by the 'opening of the meeting with a prayer'. It might be considered a nice touch but what if not everyone is Christian? What if there is a Hebrew there? Is there a time and place for such things? People have told me that they wish they wouldn't do that and that in deed, there is a time and place, like the beginning of a meal, etc for prayer but not at the beginning of a public meeting.

What do you think?
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I agree with you... but how to broach the subject without hurting feelings....
its not like you could ask for a raise of hands......

deb
 
microchick said:
My mom died without ever using her china. She would always say 'I'll get it out when and only when the president comes to dinner'. So sad. It's made 4 moves with only one cup getting broken. I was able to find a replacement on Ebay and yes, once a year I get it out and use it and no, the president has yet to show up for dinner. I have no idea who I will pass it on to.

I'll try to get caught up at some point. Today was the monthly meeting of our HAM club..

Something happened there today and I'm hoping I can get y'all's opinion of if what happened would make you a bit uncomfortable. The club is public, multi county, not held in a church but in a county training center. Today the club president asked another person to lead the group in an opening prayer. I am a person of faith, safe to say that most there are.But my faith is a private thing that I choose to show in charitable acts towards others.

There is a small group in the club that is of a faith that isn't of my own choosing and this is the group that is doing this. Others have confided that they are uncomfortable by the 'opening of the meeting with a prayer'. It might be considered a nice touch but what if not everyone is Christian? What if there is a Hebrew there? Is there a time and place for such things? People have told me that they wish they wouldn't do that and that in deed, there is a time and place, like the beginning of a meal, etc for prayer but not at the beginning of a public meeting.

What do you think?
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Wouldn't bother me.
A lot of people think such stuff should not be in a public setting because of the whole "separation of church and state" but.. The separation in our founding was for a couple things, one because of our diversity of religions and two to protect us from the state/government, government should have no say in our faith. The separation never has been about keeping it out of a public setting.
 
Depends on whether they expect everyone to join in or it's optional. I am an atheist but I don't mind displays of religion provided I have a choice to participate or not. Before a lot of formal events at work the chaplain prays. I bow my head out of respect but do not have to join in. This seems a little different but if you can not join in without consequences I think it is fine. If there's consequences for not joining in then it needs to stop.
 
We all need to respect what each other believes but I will stand my ground their religion
should not be pushed another I believe very strongly as a American in the right of religion and freedom with that I will say goodnight very long day tomorrow will be the same
 

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