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Discussion in 'Random Ramblings' started by Wisher1000, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. CanuckBock

    CanuckBock THE Village Ijit

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    And I can't emotionally deal with life losses no more. The older I get, the more meaning life has and the more cherished the oldtimers are to us. We could not find anyone here in Canada that had a chronic respiratory testing program in place for heritage turkeys (one guy finally admitted he kills any coughers--that's the full extend of his "program"--I was unimpressed with that strategy) so imported our foundation from the States from people that do testing...not 100% for sure but better than shutting the door after the horses have run off...my opinion naturally. We now have turkeys alive and productive still from June 2008 and original Chanteclers of the same age too. Old healthy fatted stuff enjoying our golden years, like me.

    I could never raise rats...I am told an old rat is 2 to 3 years old...I figure we are just getting acquainted at that age! I think button quail have the same lifespan too, bit longer in males at 4 to 5 years...oldest seems to be nine years...in the wild, lucky to make 18 months....no thanks. I hate finding old age corpses because that vividly reminds me of my own fate.

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    I have an issue where I don't deem a breeding program to be much of one if the predators have opportunities to eat a key ingredient--predators seem to prefer to take the very best ones...fickle foodies, I guess. I can deal with breeding for natural disease resistance (and losing some that way) or lack of vigour resulting in deaths as the outcome (I won't coddle because I don't want a flock of more like that to suck up the resources), but consumption by predation...just zero tolerance. I swear that I don't want to go out and find a scene of carnage on my place. I expect that outside the gates, but not here and I don't think I would bother to raise birds if carnage was an expected result that happened too consistently. A blood bath just seems too much to tolerate when I see a solution for eliminating it.

    As a kid, I grew up raising poultry in less than ideal conditions because I was not in control of the facilities and the resources, so I promised myself that as an adult with the abilities to make choices, if we could not keep them safe with things like triple perimeter fencing, I would not face the ongoing heartaches. I realize it is more natural to have predation but I don't want to witness it myself--it teaches me nothing I don't already know and now that we have the means to avoid it, we do.

    Laugh because now I can't even watch too many Nature programs no mores...I don't need to see seals being used to teach baby Killer Whales how to hunt, like a house cat playing with a live mouse--too gross! I understand it happens, I just don't want to witness it no more. I guess I am a cop out that way. [​IMG]

    So what do you have that uses the gates like ours as stepladders? I know one Ag predator specialist use to advise that one never put a solid board on the top of a fence because canine-like predators (coyotes and wolves) would use it as a visual measure to jump up and over. We have nine gauge page wire with 14 gauge next, both run about 48 inches tall with two sets of galvanized wire running above, adding up to over six feet to the top; concept being the beast has to jump at least six feet over to past the first barrier. Then because Rick knows birds like the swans think the grass is always greener...we step out another barrier in from there.

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    So how pleased would I be to find Pearl sans her head?

    She is more stubborn than I am and she is not going to change her behaviours of sticking that long neck & head past the fence boundaries to nip at grasses. Her life span in the wild is ten years, in captivity if I can keep her alive despite her ways, 20 to 30 years. Something as simple as the neighbour's dog could end her life in the blink of an eye...she's pretty sweet and just as stupid at times. [​IMG]


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    She's as naive and cute to me as human kids...would you triple fence your yard for your kids?


    If given a choice where I could not extend the duty of care I feel I owe creatures I choose to own, then I would simply choose not to own them. It is a choice we all have to make ourselves and live by.

    Another discovery the Agriculture people made when I worked at AB Ag was that coyotes had to be taught that say, sheep and goats, were prey. They took wild coyotes that had not been exposed to sheep and penned them together and the poor 'yotes wanted nothing to do with the ruminants...they were terrified. If one does not leave out deads, the scavengers never acquired a taste or understanding that some of our domestics are a food source. It was fair game if the parents taught their young that domestics were good to hunt.

    Because the birds (I presume this is what is at risk mostly) are housed inside solid houses with access to hardware clothed runs/pens, mice and maybe a determined weasel have access. Birds of prey & scavengers, coyotes, grizzly, cougar, varmits like skunk & mink; neighbour's marauding dogs & cats...we manage to keep them at bay. I check daily for digging or deterioration of facilities...a little pro active watching. Rick and I laughed at a hawk early on in our endeavours here...full tilt at one of the sun basking pheasants and the hawk had to do a quick zip up to avoid hitting the hardware cloth at nine oh...he still hit but bounced instead of crashing. Stressed the pheasant cock but he's still here being stupidly pretty to look at.

    For every one that goes out to forage in the daytime, I am at home and listening and watchful...never gonna say never but so far luck is on our sides. [​IMG]

    I have heard of predators being more than brazing about being out and about in mid daylight and walking thru tall grass and helping themselves to other's birds, but not here so far.

    I think by making it less easy to take a bird, the predators choose easier options. There are risks to a predator and they have to weigh out the resources for a successful hunt...if they get injured, they usually pay with their life for having made a bad decision.

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  2. bamadude

    bamadude Overrun With Chickens

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    short bursts of crazy up there
     
  3. bamadude

    bamadude Overrun With Chickens

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    Then 45 mins by the fire to thaw my speedo
     
  4. ozexpat

    ozexpat CocoBeach Farm

    We use good old fashioned Filipino repurposing for our fences

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  5. bamadude

    bamadude Overrun With Chickens

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    Canukbock: i must say canada has an excellent internet connection. I can rarely type 4 lines without having to start over. I think im getting ripped off
     
  6. ozexpat

    ozexpat CocoBeach Farm

    So I went out to run an errand to day. I needed to make a call so I reached into my pocket and instead of my phone I found a hard drive.

    I am getting old faster than I wish to.
     
  7. ozexpat

    ozexpat CocoBeach Farm

    Its not her internet speed bdude, Canuk holds the Alberta typing speed record.
     
  8. bamadude

    bamadude Overrun With Chickens

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    Ididaword or is that alaska
     
  9. getaclue

    getaclue Flock Master

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    Don't you have the option of Verizon FIOS there, banadude?
     
  10. ChickenCanoe

    ChickenCanoe True BYC Addict

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    I've been thinking that for a long time.

    Luckily, I learned to type at an early age and was the fastest typist in my artillery group headquarters so when the colonel's secretary went on leave, I became the colonel's temporary secretary. Good gig.

    I guess I was always impressed that my father could type well in spite of his fingers that resembled bratwurst. That's from a life of farming.
    My mom called his fingers "sausages".
     
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