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[ozexpat]

I want to know peoples thoughts on de-crowing.

@Double Kindness - This is not an afront on you. I have mixed feelings about it and I am wondering how others feel. Others here have talked on ways to limit crowing - from neck straps to surgery.

I personally love the sound of roosters crowing. I feel at home as soon as I hear them sing and have no trouble sleeping through them. That being said, I understand I am not the norm. I respect that cities can make ordinances to limit of ban animals to improve the sleep of the masses who would be stressed to the point of insomnia if their climate controlled, fully insulated, triple glazed windowed homes were to echo to sound of a roo.

I am not an organic chicken grower but I do try to keep my chickens as natural as an animal domesticated for 4000 years can be.

To me decrowing is far too removed from natural. Apart from the fact that its a high death rate surgery - its being done soley for the benifit of the animals owner - and at the detriment of the bird.

And this is where I am torn. I will castrate a pig for the sole benefit if the owner.

 

[bamadude]

About the first thing...i have no idea what decrowing is yet

 

[Alaskan]

They must have been old.

Good soup?

We ate Opa young, so he was roasted, Oma was old, she became soup.

 

[perchie.girl]

I want to know peoples thoughts on de-crowing.

@Double Kindness - This is not an afront on you. I have mixed feelings about it and I am wondering how others feel. Others here have talked on ways to limit crowing - from neck straps to surgery.

I personally love the sound of roosters crowing. I feel at home as soon as I hear them sing and have no trouble sleeping through them. That being said, I understand I am not the norm. I respect that cities can make ordinances to limit of ban animals to improve the sleep of the masses who would be stressed to the point of insomnia if their climate controlled, fully insulated, triple glazed windowed homes were to echo to sound of a roo.

I am not an organic chicken grower but I do try to keep my chickens as natural as an animal domesticated for 4000 years can be.

To me decrowing is far too removed from natural. Apart from the fact that its a high death rate surgery - its being done soley for the benifit of the animals owner - and at the detriment of the bird.

And this is where I am torn. I will castrate a pig for the sole benefit if the owner.

Not a fan myself.... But I can see the desire to keep a roo in order to have hatching eggs. I am in a position to have just about as many roos as I want. Even with Roo restrictions here in San Diego county.... WE are too close to the border where the Unmentionable figthing is done. There were many of those breeders put out of business because of that law.

I clearly dont house my chickens in that manner I still could get nailed for having too many roos. Last time I had four wellie roos Two Silky roos and one Auracana roo. All Dooodle Doooing at all hours.

Of course the Guineas made far more noise than any Roo could....

I was given the understanding that after a certain age an intact hog will taint the meat? Dad and Grandpa used to castrate thirty at a time....

deb

 

[Alaskan]

The kds really liked Oma chicken.... I have had several kids ask for another oma chicken.

 

[vehve]

I'm not a fan of de-crowing either. Although personally, I find that an operation done by a professional under anesthesia is preferable to caponizing - something I personally do not accept at all, at least not the way I've seen the procedure described. "Holding some ice against the area" is not an acceptable form of pain relief.

I'm not a fan of the way pigs are sterilized either, but I can understand why it's done. But doing it with pain relieving medication (something that at least here is becoming more common) is a great improvement to the traditional way of ripping them off and leaving the animal with it's pain.

 

[sourland]

Oh Ma, soup.

 

[Alaskan]

I dunno.... I have seen it done on pigs..... They don't seem that bothered by it, getting the little baby tusk teeth removed causes more pain.

 

[hennible]

About the first thing...i have no idea what decrowing is yet

Some sort of surgery to limit the volume of a roosters crow... is what I get out of it...

Not a fan of de-crowing or caponizing but I can understand the purpose for some people... De-crowing to me is like removing a dog's vocal chords so they cant bark I just think maybe that person shouldn't have a dog then... If you could put a rooster under for caponization I would be a fan of it but that's not exactly economical now is it... I don't know neither are for me but whatever floats your boat, and works for your flock... it's still likely they're better off than factory farmed birds...
Oz you found a good debate...

 

[chickwhispers]

Not a fan of either procedures. I don't have roos because DSO doesn't want to hear them. But I would love one. Two would be too many for me. But I don't want one if I have to get decrowed. Too expensive and not for me. To each his/her own though.