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Do you have 3 hives? I think I might get honey this year, if I'm lucky. Red team still had almost a full box of honey (I do all mediums) on top and pretty full in the middle box. Blue team had some but not as much (they lived weeks longer than red team). No one has to build comb, though. Here's hoping. I'm almost out of honey from last year and really using it sparingly. I can't imagine knowing how good it is and not having it.

I can hear Miss Piggy screaming through the open windows. It is apparently bedtime. I must go be her chariot to the roost.
Yeah, I have 3 hives but I'm a bad bee dad. I just can't seem to get enough equipment built in a timely manner for them now. I didn't want to use any of the equipment from last year because they died out. I think they starved because of the early winter but I didn't want to take the chance on reusing it in case it was disease.

I have had chicks hatching for 2 days. Some of my friend's eggs from a Slow Food project started a day early (probably because they spent 2 weeks on the top shelf of the incubator) and I wasn't ready. Mine, set the same day, are starting to hatch. I have to get set up to ship 20 of them across the state. I'm going to deliver the Slow Food chicks up north, probably tomorrow.
I had a hen start setting in the only nest in a temporary house with 8 other hens, stressing them out. I moved her to a broody apartment after cleaning it out about 5 this morning. She settled right in on her eggs and the 8 from her flock that I preincubated and added to the nest.
All this chicken and bee work has put me way back on gardening.
I moved about 40 chicks to the brooder house after I mucked it out and added 3 horizontal nipple water outlets.

I have the exact opposite problem. I was up this morning, without alarm or roosters, before 0500.

Speaking of roosters, they are defecting to the main coop... now there's only 2 left in the hoop house. I guess they didn't like what they saw last weekend of the fate of boys in the hoop house because they have done everything they can to integrate themselves into the main flock. And while I have girls who have been out there for months that I still have to chase into the coop at night with a stick, these guys are sheepishly on the roost the first night, nice and early.

I'll let it continue... they don't know I also process roosters from that coop, as well.
I'm usually up around 4.


I worked nights for a few years, but it really eats away at you. I had no problems with it then, but I don't know if I would like to do it anymore.

Busy weekend, a lot has been done, too much to repeat everything. One nice thing was that we emptied out the bunny pen, and put in new bedding for the bunnies. We dug up their tunnels so they'll have to make new ones. They had started peeing in some corners, and we wanted that out. It was crazy how long the tunnels were, from the first entrance it reached in three yards.
I worked nights (5:30 PM - 4:00 AM) for most of my working life and I hated it. I love watching the sun rise but sadly, for most of my life, I had to see it before going to sleep rather than after awakening.
After that night shift period of about 15 years when I transitioned to skilled trades, I started rotating between 8 hour shifts of days, evenings and midnights every 4 months.



Love your Hen and chicks pic tnspurs!
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vehve sounds like your bunnies want out outta there pen. And it's so nice!


Here is our first broody of the year with her chicks.

I tried to take sweetie for a walk she hated it! lol
Chicken on a tether. She'll get used to it.

So I finally got to check my hives today. Both are doing well, saw both queens but only snapped a pic of one, as well as eggs and brood, Even got a taste of some honey as I ripped some bur comb when pulling apart and removing the frames. Here's her majesty:
So cool. Do you have plastic or wax foundation?

Well, it's pouring out. Good, we need it. Got the mowing done around the coop this morning, so the rain won't affect our plans any. Dh is sleeping, so he's enjoying the rain too. He finally put freon in my vehicle. It's so nice to have air. I normally drink Cuban coffee, called Cafe Rico. I don't usually go for the flavored stuff, except from one place called The Fresh Market, which is way across town from me. Well, they've opened a genuine The Fresh Market nearby and we got some of their French Vanilla coffee. I prefer their Hazelnut, but Dh doesn't like Hazelnut, so we settled on French Vanilla. I'm enjoying a cup now, and it's soooooo good.
I've enjoyed and drank coffee since I was in my 20s but knew that it was very acidic. Love the aroma of good coffee. My favorite coffee moments were latte in Switzerland, Green Mountain coffee in Jamaica and mornings with roosters crowing with fresh coffee in Costa Rica. I quit cold turkey about 6 months ago.


Nice fish Cynthia. What body of water was that?

@vehve I went to the Purina nutritionist presentation Saturday at Bell Community Garden. As we know, commercial feed has always been formulated to satisfy the needs of the commercial poultry industry. That being broiler and layer operations as well as chicks and growing birds. Those being the bulk of the poultry since the early 1900s, feed producers sold the same feeds to the small holder.
I asked your question and he said that they are now considering making a feed intended for aged poultry since there are so many more older birds being kept as pets, just like they make food for old dogs and cats.
He said that they assume people will feed table scraps, scratch and other treats so they put more nutrients in the feed than chickens in their prime need just so that they will still thrive.
I had always assumed that the primary differences between layer and grower feed was protein and calcium percentages. He said that layer had significantly more vitamins than grower because of all that a hen expels when laying eggs regularly.
There were two topics of his talk I found interesting.
One is that chickens, being voracious eaters, shouldn't be left without feed. In trying to keep their crops and gizzard full, if no feed is available, they'll eat whatever is accessible including their bedding. Then that stays in their gizzard until it breaks down.
The other is that most chickens start slowing down their laying as they age primarily because they're overweight. He recommended cutting back on feed (counter to the first point) in molting season to cut back on fat and to a lesser extent, muscle mass. The latter will temporarily decrease while reducing body fat.
He said that layer feed is formulated for optimal nutrition through about 6 laying cycles.
I asked him how the feed for aged hens would be formulated differently. He said he could tell me but then he'd have to kill me.
Basically he said older birds just don't uptake nutrients as well and specifically things related to shell quality like vitamin D, calcium and phosphorus.
 
The non-violent offenders (who will be used for this program) get used for a lot of various programs here in this state. I'm all for it.
I was joking about the killers part. I just can't bring myself to use emojis.

@ChickenCanoe Sounds like a pretty good answer to me. And the animal feed business can be pretty cutthroat... he might not have been joking about the having to kill you part...
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They are very closely held secrets. I worked in that industry for a bit.
 
The Coke recipe it's not, but it isn't far. You need to find a balance, on one hand some consumers would like to know on a very detailed level what ingredients are used, and what the nutritional make up of a feed is, but on the other hand you don't want your competitors to be able to copy your feed to easily. A lot of things could be discovered with the help of some lab testing though. I heard about a person who had bought a bottle of soda, and it tasted a bit weird, so he sent it back to the manufacturer. In Finland, most soda bottles are recycled, and if they can stand up to a pressure test, they are just washed properly, and re-used. This specific bottle had held something else than soda in it at some point before being returned, and the soda manufacturer was able to inform the consumer that this something was barbeque sauce. They even had it pinned down to a particular brand and everything. That's pretty crazy.
 
The Coke recipe it's not, but it isn't far. You need to find a balance, on one hand some consumers would like to know on a very detailed level what ingredients are used, and what the nutritional make up of a feed is, but on the other hand you don't want your competitors to be able to copy your feed to easily. A lot of things could be discovered with the help of some lab testing though. I heard about a person who had bought a bottle of soda, and it tasted a bit weird, so he sent it back to the manufacturer. In Finland, most soda bottles are recycled, and if they can stand up to a pressure test, they are just washed properly, and re-used. This specific bottle had held something else than soda in it at some point before being returned, and the soda manufacturer was able to inform the consumer that this something was barbeque sauce. They even had it pinned down to a particular brand and everything. That's pretty crazy.

Up till recyclable bottles we used to pay a deposit on our soft drink bottles... Then wed take em back to the store and get our deposit back... Those bottles went back through the loop again several times... you could tell because there would be acutal wear on the glass...

I remember cashing in on bottles to get candy.... LOL.

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