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Morning all. Happy Saturday!

I just got finished reading an article about the 1.2 million birds that have been euthanized on the west coast due to the Newcastle Disease outbreak. So sad and while I can understand the urgency, it seems a bit like throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water and smacks of the Avian flu craziness that happened about 4-5 years ago. Culling asymptomatic healthy birds seems a moot point when the disease can be transmitted by wild birds.

Thanks for the support guys. Little Bird as I'd come to call it passed overnight. It had something going on with its innards as there was very little of anything as far as it's digestive tract was concerned. It almost looked like 'half' of a bird with all the development from the wings up so it was pretty much a lost cause from the get go but at least it was comfortable.

I did see the funniest thing last night. I was giving the moms and chicks fresh water and heard 'Turkey' as I have come to name the biting hen, and yes, after SGC's terror turkey from Hell, was throwing a fit. When I looked up I discovered that she had found a mouse in her pen (yes, mice have been horrible here this spring) and getting her two chicks behind her she was pounding the crap out of that half grown rodent. When she dispatched it she lost interest in it so I braved being pecked and tossed it to the rest of the flock that proceeded to enjoy it tremendously. I told DH that NOTHING was going to threaten her two remaining chicks, even if it wasn't a real threat.

I've been using a 'bucket o death' for the mice problem and have been finding drowned mice regularly. Usually we have an influx of mice in the fall so it is unusual to find them in the spring. Maybe the unusually wet weather?
 
Good morning and happy Saturday to all!

Moving bags of mushroom compost stacked in the garden the other day a river of mice poured out from under the last bag. Apparently they had built a subterranean village between the earth and the plastic sack. Eeek! Then, when watering an empty raised bed, I found a pink (newborn) on there. Guess a rather gravid mouse had to birth on the move. Pink went to the chickens and was gobbled up. (Funny, I see all sorts of videos of chickens gulping down whole dead mice, but mine have no interest or proclivity for the dead adults.)

Been planting and harvesting out in the veggie compound as we transition between spring and summer crops. Thus far have reaped 4 lbs. of snow peas and 1 quart of shelled peas (more to come as I haven't made a dent in the vines), kohlrabi, carrots, beets, radishes, garlic scapes, bok choi, cabbage, lettuce, and that bowl of cherries became Cherries Jubilee, Cherry Clafouti, 8 jars of Cherry Amaretto Jam and 8 pints of canned fruit. Been putting in San Marzano tomatoes (I make lots of pasta sauce), peppers (jalapeno, Anaheim, New Mexico 64-L and Big Jim), hops, cucumbers, melons, eggplant, and assorted beans (Roma, Lima, Purple Italian and Chinese Red Noodle beans.) And, yes, we're full of fresh veggie fiber.

Getting warmer here, so getting up a little earlier is more comfortable for all concerned if yard work is on the agenda. Hate having to turn on the air-con, but that's a necessity in the land of sunshine once Summer arrives. At least it's not blazing hot like Las Vegas was!

Anyway, back at it. Some kids never outgrow playing in the dirt.
 
I just finished picking strawberries.....and feeding them to the chickens.....:hitI'll probably just mow the bed after they get done producing as it is a small bed to start with and no sense pouring time and energy into something I can't eat. I only get a pint or two of berries out if it anyway. It was planned so I'd grow enough for my own consumption or to make a couple of jars of jam. I had so many plans to grow so many good things to eat and now I can't eat what I enjoy.

Whine over!

I need to spray for weeds and hoe the garden today, or at least what is left of it. I woke up at 6 AM this morning, probably subconsciously thinking about that chick. I wanted to add condolences to Bruce on the loss of the chick. It's hard to pour time and the hen to pour time into a hatching and find dead chicks. Although I have to say, losing 2 chicks out of 4 hatchings, not counting clear eggs isn't bad and Lord knows I don't need the extra birds as my flock is a perfect size at around 30 birds....of course half of them are pet roosters. But DH commented last night watching me eye dropper fluids into the dying baby 'You're right. You are a better brood hen than your hens are."

That was a high compliment for me!
 
micro, When I first delved into the fray about vND, was from a thread started on here. It was an urgent plea for help, and the OP quickly diverted those that responded to a FB page called SOB-Save Our Birds. It was highly emotional, very few facts, and anyone trying to offer good, factual, information, was banned.

After doing some research, I discovered another FB page, offering good, factual information. Some of the earlier information they provided, was some of the the same information I had come across when doing my own research.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/317...if_id=1559915122798228&notif_t=group_activity

At first, I too did NOT understand why the mandatory depopulation zones included healthy fowl. The more you study the situation, the more you understand. BTW, while wild birds do pose a bit of a threat in the spread of this strain of vND, they are not as much a threat in the spread of this, as other factors. Too, the guidelines being followed, are established protocols that have been in place for quite some time. These protocols were established by veterinarians knowledgeable in poultry, epidemiologists, and various scientists considered experts in their field. They're not just willy-nilly, or being made up as they go along.

This all began with 2 roosters being smuggled into the country. At first, they were a bit more lax on the protocols, thinking they had the situation under control. It was quickly revealed that the patient 0's, the 2 roosters, had been to a cockfight, and in a short time, it was revealed that more chickens had been exposed. It appears they were trying to quickly, and quietly get a handle on it, and get it eradicated. It didn't work out that way. One of the biggest complaints is the lack of information. A lot of that is currently being addressed.
 
It did not rain yesterday, but it's pouring out now, and looks like it's set in for the rest of the day. Rain is predicted for the next 10 days. That makes it a bit hard with the kids. Usually we get lightening when it rains, so the kids can't swim during a rain storm. They can swim in between the rains, but the rain cools the pool down significantly, so they don't get as long swimming, before they get cold. At lest they do get some swim time, and a way to burn off all that pent up energy.
 
Happy Saturday Yes I am up also been for about an hour watching the news .. second cup of coffee I have learned allot about the original owners of our property chicken keeping has been here since the 30's but knock on wood no disease......
We had absolute downpours all day yesterday off and on suppose to have drying out now we will see
 
penny1960 said:
pouring rain here thunder booms but they call for it to be gone by morning
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WE have a wind warning along with a red flag fire warning.

I read about a 600 acre fire yesterday in California
 
microchick said:
Morning all. Happy Saturday!

I just got finished reading an article about the 1.2 million birds that have been euthanized on the west coast due to the Newcastle Disease outbreak. So sad and while I can understand the urgency, it seems a bit like throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water and smacks of the Avian flu craziness that happened about 4-5 years ago. Culling asymptomatic healthy birds seems a moot point when the disease can be transmitted by wild birds.

Thanks for the support guys. Little Bird as I'd come to call it passed overnight. It had something going on with its innards as there was very little of anything as far as it's digestive tract was concerned. It almost looked like 'half' of a bird with all the development from the wings up so it was pretty much a lost cause from the get go but at least it was comfortable.

I did see the funniest thing last night. I was giving the moms and chicks fresh water and heard 'Turkey' as I have come to name the biting hen, and yes, after SGC's terror turkey from Hell, was throwing a fit. When I looked up I discovered that she had found a mouse in her pen (yes, mice have been horrible here this spring) and getting her two chicks behind her she was pounding the crap out of that half grown rodent. When she dispatched it she lost interest in it so I braved being pecked and tossed it to the rest of the flock that proceeded to enjoy it tremendously. I told DH that NOTHING was going to threaten her two remaining chicks, even if it wasn't a real threat.

I've been using a 'bucket o death' for the mice problem and have been finding drowned mice regularly. Usually we have an influx of mice in the fall so it is unusual to find them in the spring. Maybe the unusually wet weather?
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Vnf is a big deal and it needs to be controlled aggressively. The survivors will be carriers for life and it is nearly 100% Fatal.

The Saddest part are the people that are running with infected birds to other parts of the state or Country.

Avian flu is not the same since the birds will not be carriers and it is not as fatal as a percentage of those infected
 

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