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[ronott1]

Just to put into perspective the following is the amount required to be toxic in various animals.

0.3 to 7 mg/kg in rats,
3.0 to 7.5 mg/kg in dogs,
4.7 mg/kg in cats,
150 mg/kg in pigs,
50 to 300 mg/kg in mice,
35 mg/kg in rabbits

So basically a dog would have to eat a **** load of rats to get the blood levels needed to get sick

Yes, it is very safe and effective. I killed off three colonies in a week with this. I went from Rats taunting me to no rats seen. Very satisfying....

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Sounds like we need to round up rat wranglers and head for SCG's place. I'd be fuming right now. Poor little duckling.

OK.........Poison that sucker!!

I've got a large house. Will put up any wranglers. Will provide ammo.

Just to put into perspective the following is the amount required to be toxic in various animals.

0.3 to 7 mg/kg in rats,
3.0 to 7.5 mg/kg in dogs,
4.7 mg/kg in cats,
150 mg/kg in pigs,
50 to 300 mg/kg in mice,
35 mg/kg in rabbits

So basically a dog would have to eat a **** load of rats to get the blood levels needed to get sick

Thanks for the LD50s! I've worked in anticoag clinic a number of years and have seen a large man go to "no clot" on just a few days of warfarin 5 mg and then we have another patient that requires 70 mg a day to keep his INR above 2. That kind of range always makes me hesitant to use poison.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

I used this

and it was very effective. I put it out at night wearing gloves--in a place where only rats would get it.

It is a medium level anti-coagulant and if a pet or chicken eats the dead rat, it is treatable with Vitamin K.

Rats are very attracted to water so they do not have as much avoidance to it.

Alright, Ron, you're on. I just bought this and a pack of 'The Giant Destroyer Gas Bomb' for grins. I have seen the rats drinking out of the duck bowls so I think you might be on to something here. Thanks to Amazon Prime, they'll be here on the 27th.

 

[ozexpat]

I've got a large house. Will put up any wranglers. Will provide ammo.


Thanks for the LD50s! I've worked in anticoag clinic a number of years and have seen a large man go to "no clot" on just a few days of warfarin 5 mg and then we have another patient that requires 70 mg a day to keep his INR above 2. That kind of range always makes me hesitant to use poison.

The ranges you quote are pretty extreme even for warfarin but I am not surprised.

I started to calculate how many rats that ingested 5x their lethal dose it would take to kill a 10KG dog but I decided a **** load was just as convincing

 

[superchemicalgirl]

The ranges you quote are pretty extreme even for warfarin but I am not surprised.

I started to calculate how many rats that ingested 5x their lethal dose it would take to kill a 10KG dog but I decided a **** load was just as convincing

I did pick the two most extreme patients I've ever seen. I admit the first time I saw the 70mg/day warfarin guy my sphincter tightened a little.

I like your calculations. I'm hoping just a little sippy for Mr Ratty and Friends will be enough to find dead rat bodies everywhere. Nothing will make me happier.

Apparently the rat family did a bit of food storage rearranging today because I found two duckling bodies under the doghouse (it was free and clear 24 hours ago). Either they started to stink up the rat casa or the rats are in full on Prepper mode and have used up the first pantry.

 

[drumstick diva]

Poor ducklings MUST be avenged!!

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Poor ducklings MUST be avenged!!

 

[ronott1]

Alright, Ron, you're on. I just bought this and a pack of 'The Giant Destroyer Gas Bomb' for grins. I have seen the rats drinking out of the duck bowls so I think you might be on to something here. Thanks to Amazon Prime, they'll be here on the 27th.

They can die the first night but the kill time is 5 days for the rest.

Hopefully they will be very thirsty!

 

[Bunnylady]

Oh, man. I probably shouldn't mention this, but we had a determined exterminator working on the rat problem at the barn a couple of years ago. He put bait stations in some pretty creative spots and killed a lot of rats. As the rats felt the effects of the poison, they would get really thirsty, and would try to drink from the horses' water buckets and fall in. For a while, I had a sort of morbid game where I would try to guess which horse would have the dead rat in his/her stall water bucket in the morning (good thing I am not squeamish, huh?) The worst was 5 young rats all in the same bucket one morning - probably a litter.

It was pretty nasty, and I told nobody about what I was finding in the buckets (I just cleaned the buckets really well!) I figured I preferred disposing of them that way to having to try to hunt them out when they died elsewhere.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Oh, man. I probably shouldn't mention this, but we had a determined exterminator working on the rat problem at the barn a couple of years ago. He put bait stations in some pretty creative spots and killed a lot of rats. As the rats felt the effects of the poison, they would get really thirsty, and would try to drink from the horses' water buckets and fall in. For a while, I had a sort of morbid game where I would try to guess which horse would have the dead rat in his/her stall water bucket in the morning (good thing I am not squeamish, huh?) The worst was 5 young rats all in the same bucket one morning - probably a litter.

It was pretty nasty, and I told nobody about what I was finding in the buckets (I just cleaned the buckets really well!) I figured I preferred disposing of them that way to having to try to hunt them out when they died elsewhere.

That's actually pretty funny.