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[Wisher1000]

Quote: Of course, I'm a southern girl, but although I love collards, I won't bother with them if I don't have some cornbread to go with them. Now, it shouldn't be sweet, NO cornbread should contain sugar, but if you have a mess of collards, you also have to have cornbread and pepper sauce.

 

[Beer can]

I didn't know that about peas. What if you sprout the legumes, will they still contain toxins? I was going to grow a bunch of beans and feed the seeds to our chickens, pole beans are easy to grow and produce more beans than we ever use, or want to process.

 

[ronott1]

Ron is there a place to find that safe percentage??

I have seen it before but do not have it in my notes.

@ozexpat likely has it though. He is the Guru of Feed information.

 

[Arielle]

I didn't know that about peas. What if you sprout the legumes, will they still contain toxins? I was going to grow a bunch of beans and feed the seeds to our chickens, pole beans are easy to grow and produce more beans than we ever use, or want to process.

I had the same idea too. THough I knew there was a limitation-- and now I am that much closer to using peas and beans.

 

[Beer can]

Wisher1000, ever had cornbread cake made with chopped broccoli, cottage cheese, sharp chedder, eggs and butter? A truck driver from Ashville NC gave me some his wife made and her recipe. We make cottage cheese where I work so I always gave gone a bunch when he was delivering. He gave me a gallon of moonshine once too!

 

[Wisher1000]

YUMMMM! Please post that recipe!

Edited to add - that sounds delish, but it's not cornbread.

 

[ozexpat]

Ron is there a place to find that safe percentage??

You can get good info at www.feedipedia.org

 

[Beer can]

I'm at work but there is recipes online. His contained no liquids. I think it was one box jiffy cornbread mix, cup of cottage cheese, cup of sharp chedder shredded, one thawed10oz box of frozen chopped broccoli, one stick butter melted, two eggs. Combine it all and bake in a greased 8x8 or maybe it was 8x10" pan at 350 until golden brown. I add a little shredded sharp chedder to the top. I love it!

 

[ozexpat]

@ozexpat You inspired me to start putting together a spreadsheet of the nutrient content in what we feed the chickens. I've been instinctively cutting down on the feeds I consider to be high in protein, and just did a rough calculation on what we're feeding them for the first time. This is a bit difficult though, since the info available on different feeds seems to be in slightly different forms, and for some stuff I have very basic info. I'm going to add the vitamins etc. later (which will be a pain to get good data on), but I'd say the mix I just made this morning seems to be pretty well balanced proteinwise.

Ingredient
Hold'em Close Mix Wheat Oat Rapeseed pellet Pea Linseed crush Total
Parts

15​

30​

30​

10​

10​

5​

Coefficient

0.15​

0.3​

0.3​

0.1​

0.1​

0.05​

Contents Contents
Crude Protein

0.115​

0.126​

0.11​

0.295​

0.239​

0.314​

Crude Protein

0.15715​

Oil/Fat

0.13​

0.227​

0.139​

Oil/Fat

0.04915​

Fibre

0.09​

0.026​

0.139​

0.133​

0.06​

0.119​

Fibre

0.08825​

Ash

0.025​

0.018​

0.03​

0.0054​

0.035​

0.053​

Ash

0.02484​

Starch

0.691​

0.406​

0.513​

Starch

0.3804​

You're probably a bit more familiar with feedipedia than I am, don't they measure fat in any way in their tables? I still need to make time for getting more familiar with their tables.

What we're trying to accomplish with mixing the feed ourselves, is to mainly feed them domestically grown stuff. Out of the ingredients in this mix everything except for the Hold'em seed mix is grown in Finland, and the wheat, oats, peas and canola is grown about 40km from us.

The Hold'em mix is imported from Britain, so it's traveled a bit, but the birds seem to go crazy for the stuff. It has a bit of aniseed oil in it which makes the feed smell pretty nice, and I think it's giving our eggs a slight flavor addition too. The flavor isn't anise-like, it just improves and enriches the egg taste. It's made up of all kinds of goodies that would be hard to find, so I think it's nutritional value when it comes to vitamins and such is pretty ok too. Or at least that's what I tell myself.

you can do the math on fat by looking at energy and subtracting kj for carbs and protein

 

[Beer can]

I like a non-sweet cornbread also, sweet cornbread (jiffy is sweet) doesn't go good with hot chili. My favorite breakfast is cornmeal mush with cracked black pepper, sharp chedder and butter and a couple sunny side up eggs on top.