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[getaclue]

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Cancer has NOT been as tamed by modern medicine as much as we would like to think it has, nor is it an old person's disease. St. Jude's, All Children's Hospitals, Shriners Hospitals all deal with childhood cancer patients all around the country. I am not saying red meat does not contribute, but that the way commercial cattle are fed, given hormones, and processed today might have a lot more to do with it. While it used to be uncommon for younger women to get breast cancer, it's rapidly becoming more commonplace for women in their early 20's and 30's to be diagnosed with it now. For the record, almost 50% of the women tested after having breast cancer, are not genetically predisposed to it. The reason it's important to be tested, and know this information is for the follow up treatment. Any good oncologist will tell a breast cancer survivor that decreasing processed foods in their diet, and including as much organic foods as they can, while it's not conclusive, but studies show that there is a correlation between decreasing processed food in the diet, and increased survival rates. Scurvy, and rickets are two diseases that have been eliminated through diet. Diabetes can be greatly improved through diet, but far too many processed foods nowadays contain various sugars. I'm not saying better practices in both growing, and processing our food will cure all ills, but it does have a lot more impact than we tend to realize. Yes, modern medicine has done wonders in plenty of areas. The development of antibiotics has stopped people from dying from TB, and various other things. Immunizations have eliminated plenty of diseases. That still does not mean we should be negligent of the impact on health by radically modifying our food sources for the sake of increased production, while decreasing nutritional benefits derived from our food.

 

[perchie.girl]

My dads famly had TB. All his sisters went to the TB wards at one time or another. He was exposed yes but devleoped natural immunity to it. To the point that he was told in no uncertian terms NOT to get vaccinated.

Consequentially he was raised to not hug and kiss to show affection. When I was a small child I got colds alot. and when I had a coughing fit he would scold me and tell me to STOP coughing. Later on I understood it for what it was. Fear. As an adult I found out I could have had childhood asthma. Dads Mom had it so bad she had to lay on the floor of the farm house to breathe the cool air off the linoleum.

I still have episodes when I get a cold. My son inhereted it as well. His sypmtoms are allergy triggered.

All his sisters with the exception of one lived a long time well into their seventies.

His sister Jerry was in and out of TB wards till her Daugter was about eight... then she got cancer and was gone.
His sister Helen had one lung removed and yet she still smoked. she was the next to go By then her adopted son was in college.
His sister Lucia Slept with a 45 under her pillow. She died of natural causes but I dont know what but she died at home.
His sister Hanoise Went through three common law husbands. Died of cancer.

They all lived hard as if they knew their time was short on this earth. All were heavy drinkers As was my dad.
Dad made it till he was 69 and died of a heart attack. My son was ten.

I have that whole specter of short life on Dads side of the family and Moms side the whole specter of long life. With a lot of mental illness in to spice the whole thing up.

deb

 

[perchie.girl]

By the way If and when I take my horse to her retirement home in Montana I WILL be visiting Homer AK. One of my dads sisters lived there for about twenty years. She did Scrimshaw. made a very good living making knife handles and gun grips. Along with custom jewelry and art pieces.

I would be hauling a horse trailer up to the area around Flathead lake. Dropping her off with the trailer... Giving her big Perchie huggs and watching her make friends with my girlfriend's two Big Percheron Geldings... Katee LOVES boy horses... Shes got the Mare Stare down pat.
But I have never been around forest and trees for any great lenght of time. It would be a good time to Meander my way home.

deb

 

[vehve]

Wisher, yeah, I know better than to mess with you

Late, that's The Who, not the WHO. Great music though.

Bama, I'm almost afraid to ask. Boatsnowbil?

Deb, *hugs*

 

[getaclue]

deb, my grandmother was born on Jan. 1 . 1900. I don't know exactly how old she was when she got married, and had 2 children, the second one was my dad. He was around 2 when my grandfather died of a stroke (high blood pressure, which ran in his family), so my grandmother sold the farm, and they moved into her mother's house. Within 6 months she was diagnosed with TB. The remainder of the money from the sale of the farm went for her treatment. She was in the TB sanitorium for at least a year. During that time they removed all her floater ribs, collapsed one of her lungs, and did surgery on it. She was one of the first that survived the procedure. Her mother took in laundry to support herself, and the children while my grandmother was in the sanitorium. After she left the sanitorium, with a clean bill of health, she was weak, and required a lot of care. It took her almost a year after being released, to regain full health. When she did, she worked for a laundromat. While she was in the sanitorium, she met the man that would eventually become her second husband. After she got released, she exchanged letters with quite a few of the people she met at the sanitorium. Some didn't make it, but some did. One evening after she got home from work, there was a knock at the door, and one of the men she had met, and corresponded with was at her door. One thing led to another, and they eventually got married. He was the only father my dad ever knew. They stayed married until my grandfather died many years later. Growing up, I remember every so often, on the dresser in their bedroom, there would be two small glass bottles with screw on lids. I asked what they were for, and my grandmother explained they were sputum bottles for her, and granddad, so they could be tested for TB. She was around 86 when she died.

 

[ronott1]

It amazes me how similar many of our stories are here.

My Paternal Grandfather was born in 1895. He had TB and was sent to California to a TB Sanatorium here. He was told that he needed to live in a dryer climate so that is why my Family moved from Wisconsin to California.

 

[dsqard]

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Dude I think I just threw up a little in my mouth

 

[Beer can]

My father in law who's 77 said when he was four yrs old he was placed on a train alone and sent to a tb clinic. Doesn't remember much about it except for crying.
He has had chest xray's recently and was told they didn't see any evidence that he even had it.

 

[WVduckchick]

I saw this after visiting the Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum.

 

[bamadude]

#13 is quite a feat