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[superchemicalgirl]

That is great!

How did they get to Church?

My boss took them. It's a Polish Catholic service.

 

[ronott1]

My boss took them. It's a Polish Catholic service.

It looked very traditional.

Some wear shorts to church here in California.

 

[Alaskan]

Pretty cool SCG.


Did they get all dressed up in fancy colors first? Or show up in the buff?

 

[superchemicalgirl]

You know I didn't ask. Left foot starting to deflate a bit today. I want to say I would only recommend this method if you've tried other methods and exhausted them first.

 

[Alaskan]

You know I didn't ask. Left foot starting to deflate a bit today. I want to say I would only recommend this method if you've tried other methods and exhausted them first.

Gotcha... It does sound slow and labor intensive.

I am glad it is getting better.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

And her bumble is starting to improve. Her right side is visibly less puffed up between two of the toes. I am not sure if it's the antibiotics yet or her not sitting all darned day on a hard roost.

I'm tempted to say it's the antibiotics but I need more days of treatment and watching.

Have you tried a warm Epsom soak or the herbal ointment?
The CEH is hard to find. I went to a place here that manufactures herbal treatments and I still couldn't get all three so I bought one and then the other 2 as essential oils and mixed them.

It looked very traditional.

Some wear shorts to church here in California.

I remember going to the Vatican in shorts. They made me wear a black plastic ankle length robe before allowed to enter.

You know I didn't ask. Left foot starting to deflate a bit today. I want to say I would only recommend this method if you've tried other methods and exhausted them first.

What method did you use? I'm sorry, I missed it.

 

[perchie.girl]

You know I didn't ask. Left foot starting to deflate a bit today. I want to say I would only recommend this method if you've tried other methods and exhausted them first.

Here is another somewhat herbal remedy Caster oil put on topically and wrapped with gauze and vetwrap.

its not only an analgesic but an anti-inflammatory as well

and no it doesnt cause diarreah when used topically

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Gotcha... It does sound slow and labor intensive.

I am glad it is getting better.

Me too. Hopefully it continues to improve. In all of the past instances she's improved to about 70% then stopped improving.

Have you tried a warm Epsom soak or the herbal ointment?
The CEH is hard to find. I went to a place here that manufactures herbal treatments and I still couldn't get all three so I bought one and then the other 2 as essential oils and mixed them.

I remember going to the Vatican in shorts. They made me wear a black plastic ankle length robe before allowed to enter.


What method did you use? I'm sorry, I missed it.

Yes, we're about out of options at this point. They're very infected and swollen. I would take pictures of the beginning and the progress but I don't need people judging me. I know her feet are bad. And they look even "better" this evening than yesterday, although they still look awful.

I am going to whip up some very dilute Dakins' solution to have on hand in case we have to cut into her. Our go to is an epsom salt soak followed by an antimicrobial scrub (chlorhexidine followed by triclisan) then packed with triple antibiotic ointment, repeat daily. This has cured everyone but her in the past. I will be going to Dakins as an irrigation after soaking and cutting if the oral antibiotics don't work. And if all that doesn't work I will likely cull. A word of caution on Dakins - it is very dangerous to use. It can kill cells. You use it in cases where the body can't overcome the bacteria (so a case like my turkey foot). Use the most dilute Dakins you can make.

For the person that mentioned the herbal cream - I'd be willing to try that, too, if I could find it from a reputable source or be able to make it myself.

 

[Latestarter]

Hope you can get it under control. With all you're doing, (though I know it happens all too frequently) I don't see where judging should be an issue. Sorry she's been an ongoing foot problem. Is it a breed thing? Maybe just her specifically? or some environmental issue that's causing it? you've obviously had little luck determining I know... It's just that you've only really mentioned this recurring problem with the one turkey, and with none of your other birds. Sorry, hope she heals.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Well I live on very rocky land that has a ton of thorny creepers like blackberries so there's lots of opportunity to get a scrape. We have hard ice/snow/frozen ground almost half the year and for about 3 months of the year I struggle to get the poop off the poop boards (and everywhere else) because it's frozen solid. I run out there on near to above freezing days to scrape the poop so as to not miss an opportunity. So my "housekeeping" is only good 3 seasons a year.

I believe it also has to do with genetics, but how, I don't know. It seems some birds are just predisposed to it. I was constantly treating my white leghorns from Murray McMurray. I had 4 of them and all 4 of them got bumble frequently, although they were very easy to treat (both docile and the infection was easy). They're all dead now and I have 2 new leghorns from another hatchery that will be 1 this year and no issues so far. I've had a couple other birds get bumble on occasion (considering how many years I've had birds and the quantity of birds I have the actual number of bumbles is very low). Most just clear it on their own. With the exception of the 4 leghorns, one McMurray Rhode Island Red and the terrible turkey, the rest I have not had to treat. I have birds that are 6+ years old that have been in the same exact conditions as the ones mentioned above and have never ever had a bumble. I don't get it. We replace the roosts and the poop boards once a year and BF makes sure they're sanded before installation.

Alright, here's a picture of current state but if you don't have anything nice to say, skip past it, I don't need to hear it, I feel bad enough for her as is:



You can see her left foot is the worst. The pad of her foot is still very swollen but between the toes is deflating. She's walking and standing just fine.