The Olive-Egger thread!

[Illia]

I'm a "rare and unusual" snob

My F1's I'm shooting for a colorful tufted bird, my second gens I'm shooting for a beefy rumpless feather legged bird, no tufts though as the parents to my F1 x F1 eggs are both cleanfaced. I traded these eggs from someone who I sold a clean-faced couple to. But, I got envious, so, I got some eggs from them. The colors won't be anything special but the next generation will. My current F1's are special in color though.

No Am's in these breedings. I wanted to do Buff Am to get the cream/dilute gene as well as the dun gene or maybe even mahogany but never got to do it. And right now my Am's are being used for a different project.

 

[draye]

I'm a "rare and unusual" snob

My F1's I'm shooting for a colorful tufted bird, my second gens I'm shooting for a beefy rumpless feather legged bird, no tufts though as the parents to my F1 x F1 eggs are both cleanfaced. I traded these eggs from someone who I sold a clean-faced couple to. But, I got envious, so, I got some eggs from them. The colors won't be anything special but the next generation will. My current F1's are special in color though.

No Am's in these breedings. I wanted to do Buff Am to get the cream/dilute gene as well as the dun gene or maybe even mahogany but never got to do it. And right now my Am's are being used for a different project.

Buff to what will get you cream/dilute?

 

[Illia]

Anything not Buff or cream/dilute. But the key is in the 2nd gen. The first gen will look like typical buff crosses with occasional dun birds, pretty pretty, but the 3rd gen crossed either out again or F1 x F1 will get you the creamy color, however I think it's a recessive gene not sure, so only F1 x F1 will truly work. The color replaces any "gold" with a creamy yellow, so for example a gold laced becomes "citron" laced.

 

[draye]

Anything not Buff or cream/dilute. But the key is in the 2nd gen. The first gen will look like typical buff crosses with occasional dun birds, pretty pretty, but the 3rd gen crossed either out again or F1 x F1 will get you the creamy color, however I think it's a recessive gene not sure, so only F1 x F1 will truly work. The color replaces any "gold" with a creamy yellow, so for example a gold laced becomes "citron" laced.

Is there a picture of creme/dilute?

 

[Coopacabana]

Anything not Buff or cream/dilute. But the key is in the 2nd gen. The first gen will look like typical buff crosses with occasional dun birds, pretty pretty, but the 3rd gen crossed either out again or F1 x F1 will get you the creamy color, however I think it's a recessive gene not sure, so only F1 x F1 will truly work. The color replaces any "gold" with a creamy yellow, so for example a gold laced becomes "citron" laced.

This is what I figured out with the calculator:
Dilute is dominant. However, with Mahogany (also dominant) it makes buff. So yes, breed a buff with something else (I would do welsummer and buff ameraucana) and then do F1 x F1 to get 18.75% lemon/creams (with other colors on them too, of course) or breed an F1 to a non dilute and mahogany bird (like another wellsummer) and get 25% lemon/creams, but none will be Di/Di, only Di/di and those will give some none lemon babies when bred to other lemons of that hatch. This is a project I'm planning on, lemon is my fave color and what could be better than a blue lemon cream columbian olive egger (the rooster i'll cross to the buff am hen will be an F1 from the blue wheaten ameraucana x wellsummer project to get the blue)?

 

[Coopacabana]

Is there a picture of creme/dilute?

NOT PICTURES OF MY BIRDS but I wish they were!

This is a lemon mille fleur sablepoot, I think they have the ig gene but similar color:

some brighter ones:

And a blue lemon cochin:

 

[draye]

Nice. Thanks.

What color is a dilute?

 

[Coopacabana]

Nice. Thanks.

What color is a dilute?

Dilute is a gene that turns gold pigment yellow/cream as in the birds I posted pics of. Lavender does the same thing, but also affects black pigment, turning it light gray. There are other genes that create lemon/citron/yellow/cream color, too. Porcelain is mille fleur with lavender. Lemon mille fleur is mille fleur with dilute or ig. So, no precise color is 'dilute' but many can be diluted by dilute.

 

[CrazyCatNChickenLady]

I blew out some eggs today, thought it was a fun egg picture!

 

[Coopacabana]

Beautiful!!!! Love that bright green!