The Olive-Egger thread!

[DMRippy]

I am sorry if I am missing something here, I skim sometimes with the kids in my lap. The straight combs is that the question? I am not up on the right lingo so bare with me. The Ameraucanas SHOULD have 2 copies of the pea comb gen and 2 of the blue egg genes. The pea comb and the blue egg gene USUALLY travel together but not always. My guess is that the Ameraucana only had one copy of the pea comb gene (dominate BTW) but still had 2 copies of the blue egg gene ( dominate too) . So even with the straight combs popping up you got olive eggers anyway. Not usually the case but it can happen. You have proof and didn't need a punnet square to show you it could or couldn't happen or even statistics.

 

[DMRippy]

I set 1 olive egger ands it hatched
white empordanesa roo over blue ameraucana. chick looks blue

are empordanesa dom white or recessive white? the chick is telling me recessive white. I don't really know what color is under the empordanesa's white. Could be anything but my guess is either blue or black. So you could get blue black or splash chicks if my guess is right. (usually black.... that is what I would use to make whites)

Good luck with your hatch!

 

[Hangtown Farms]

are empordanesa dom white or recessive white? the chick is telling me recessive white. I don't really know what color is under the empordanesa's white. Could be anything but my guess is either blue or black. So you could get blue black or splash chicks if my guess is right. (usually black.... that is what I would use to make whites)

Good luck with your hatch!

I thought Dominant but guess not.
I think the hen sat on the eggs during the day as non of my crele penedesenca have hatched yet. stressing as they are usually late. will have to do a quick chick pull tomorrow if need be

 

[DMRippy]

Quote: Recessive whites make the best whites.

 

[jeremy]

Recessive whites make the best whites.

Why?

 

[DMRippy]

Quote:
Rec white COVERS better than Dom White. Dom White can leak the under color. Rec white will stop the leakage most of the time. A white with silver make them even better.... they are just WHITER looking.

 

[LittleBittyFarm]

I am looking for help from the experts on this forum.

I am a high school teacher and I use rare chicken breeds and egg colors to teach sustainability & genetics. We research different egg colors and breeding for various egg colors. We are going to be hatching some olive eggers, partridge penedesenca, FBC marans, tufted rumpless araucanas and various other breeds soon in the classroom.

Has anyone tried a cross between two blue egg laying breeds (Ameraucana with Cream Legbar) or even a cross between a blue egg layer with a green egg layer (Isbar). I am just curious if this would produce a brighter blue egg layer or even a brighter turquoise colored egg. Anyone tried this or have opinions/predictions or a hypotheses? I know about the basics of egg color genetics and makeup. Responding with a comment like "a green egg is really a blue egg with brown coating....." is not going to help. We figured that out at the very beginning of our research.

My students goal is to raise chickens that will produce 12 different egg colors. A rainbow dozen. We have a lot of the obvious breeds. The students are bringing up great questions about cross breeding for egg color. The OE was an experiment...there has to be more out there.

I will be posting this in several forums to gain info. Thanks so much!!

 

[nicalandia]

I am sorry if I am missing something here, I skim sometimes with the kids in my lap. The straight combs is that the question? I am not up on the right lingo so bare with me. The Ameraucanas SHOULD have 2 copies of the pea comb gen and 2 of the blue egg genes. The pea comb and the blue egg gene USUALLY travel together but not always. My guess is that the Ameraucana only had one copy of the pea comb gene (dominate BTW) but still had 2 copies of the blue egg gene ( dominate too) . So even with the straight combs popping up you got olive eggers anyway. Not usually the case but it can happen. You have proof and didn't need a punnet square to show you it could or couldn't happen or even statistics.

True Ameraucana are homozygous for the Pea comb, so if there is a heterozygous one, then its an Easter egger nothing more

 

[nicalandia]

Has anyone tried a cross between two blue egg laying breeds (Ameraucana with Cream Legbar) or even a cross between a blue egg layer with a green egg layer (Isbar).

this will produce lighter green eggs, due to the dominant multi genetic trait of the brown egg shell, green eggers are blue eggers with the brown egg shell poligenic trait

 

[LittleBittyFarm]

Thank you! Very helpful.