The Olive-Egger thread!

[TammyTX]

my experience has been breeding different hens to an EE of unknown parentage. In the group of hens, two were pure Welsummer, two were Wellie/leghorn crosses and one was an Australorp/EE cross. Of the dozen or so pullets laying from this breeding about a fourth lay some shade of brown; from pale like a buff orpington to a dark brown like a Welsummer. I would guess in your case you will get about three fourths or so of the pullets laying some shade of green and the rest some shade of brown if you breed him to a black copper or a welsummer.

In the case of your green layer, do you have the mother or sisters of the roos in question? I would breed to which ever carries the darkest egg genetics if I wanted olivers. Again realizing some will lay brown.

That is very interesting. I have a couple of young Welsummer pullets, too. I will have to wait to see how their eggs compare to the BC's

It sounds like it's important for me to carry on the genes of the EE'r that lays the nice green egg.

I do have the mother of the mixed roo.

Thank you.

 

[Hangtown Farms]

Now….who asked for pictures of Olive Eggs? I've been meaning to do this for a week or so, took some pics today. First the one with the spots….

very nice eggs

I have a half Welsummer/half EE'r rooster. If I breed him back to a EE'r or a Black Cooper, will the pullets out of those unions produce Olive Eggs?

One EE'r that I have now produces a very nice green egg...the green egg in my avatar. Would it be better to breed the green egg layer to a full blooded Welsummer or Cuckoo Maran rooster?

does he have a pea comb? I like to know whats in mine but that does not mean you can not get olive eggs from ee crosses. You very much can and you can get nice ones.
If he doesn't have a pea comb though then start with a marans rooster if you have one.
If you use a easter egger maybe look on the easter egger thread or the for sale page and see what others have that way you may have a better idea whats in them.

I breed my ameraucana or u of a blue layers to empordanesa ( dark brown) there pea combed offspring will be bred back to either my empordanesa or penedesenca

 

[TammyTX]

My mixed roo does not have a pea comb but it's not a full Welly comb, either. It's narrow, but about an inch high.

I do have a Marans roo.

 

[chicken pickin]

My mixed roo does not have a pea comb but it's not a full Welly comb, either. It's narrow, but about an inch high.

I do have a Marans roo.

A Marans rooster over a blue or green egg layer will work.

 

[Penny Hen]

I got some new pictures of my roo now that he is all decked out in his new feathers. I named him Long John Silver thinking he was a silver duckwing until this last moult when the hackles and saddle came in with a lemon tint meaning he was gold based with a dilution gene. According to Kippen Jungle there are 3 genes that can give the pale yellow phenotype but since I don't know which one I am just going to call him a Lemon Duckwing. But I am not changing his name. He is so swashbuckling that he is keeping his pirate name.



One of the things that surprised me about getting these pictures is how fast he realized this was "all about him" and he lost his nervousness and started posing. I also love that for a change I was able to catch the irridecence of his feathers. His wing has that deep blue stripe of the duckwing pattern but his tail color is more deep teal than beetle green. First I thought it was just a eye trick with the color but when my other roo who is a black-breasted red pattern with the deep green tail stands right next to him you can see that John Silvers tail tints into the blue-green range

 

[ronott1]

I got some new pictures of my roo now that he is all decked out in his new feathers. I named him Long John Silver thinking he was a silver duckwing until this last moult when the hackles and saddle came in with a lemon tint meaning he was gold based with a dilution gene. According to Kippen Jungle there are 3 genes that can give the pale yellow phenotype but since I don't know which one I am just going to call him a Lemon Duckwing. But I am not changing his name. He is so swashbuckling that he is keeping his pirate name.



One of the things that surprised me about getting these pictures is how fast he realized this was "all about him" and he lost his nervousness and started posing. I also love that for a change I was able to catch the irridecence of his feathers. His wing has that deep blue stripe of the duckwing pattern but his tail color is more deep teal than beetle green. First I thought it was just a eye trick with the color but when my other roo who is a black-breasted red pattern with the deep green tail stands right next to him you can see that John Silvers tail tints into the blue-green range

That is a great looking Boy!

 

[basketballdk]

I Just hatched some OE chicks, and will try to only keep the hens that have the pea comb, beard, and are blue, and if they have feathered feet from the French coppers they are mixed with, that is good to, they will be F3...

Not sure if I will breed them back to each other or to a blue ameraucana.. Depends on how dark the eggs are.. Should be dark olive.. So me breeding to a ameraucana roo will lighten them to sorta a grass green or so, maybe a little lighter and also put some more beard and pea comb in their blood.. Just depends.

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[Darkangael]

Beautiful rooster

 

[Luv-R-Chickens]

Well now, that sums it all up in an egg shell!!!

 

[Luv-R-Chickens]

you make no genetic sence...



lets make this alot easier for you lot..

what happens when you cross a white egg layer to a Dark Dark brown egg layer? do you get Dark brown eggs? or do you get tan/brown colore eggs?

what happens whe you cross a brown egg layer to a Dark Dark brown egg layer? do you get tan/brown eggs or do you gert dark brown eggs?..

Blue egg shell gene + white egg shell gene = Blue egg shelled eggs
Blue egg shell gene + Tan/brown shell genes = light green/green eggs
Blue egg shell gene + Dark brown shell genes = Olive eggs
Blue egg shel gene + Dark Dark(maran type) shell genes = Super Dark Olive eggs..

so if wish to hatch Olive eggers using a bird that already lays green eggs will help you achieve darker olive eggs

I hope thats easy enough for you guys..



your understanding on this matter is very limited .



again your understanding on this matter is very limitted, Genes dont get lost, specially genes that are attached to other genes you can see at hatch...

let me try to explain..

BCM Rooster over a True Ameraucana(Blue eggs) = 100% of All of the hens will have just One copy of the blue egg shell gene. but their mother´s white egg shell base genes will Dilute the dark egg genes to a Tan or light brown eggs. adding one copy of the blue egg gene(O) will make them green maybe light Olive.

BCM rooster ove an EE hens that is laying green eggs(the darker the best) = Only 50% of the Females will have the Pea comb. and they will also have one copy of the blue egg shell gene(just the like the cross above) but their´s mother green egg shen genes(many genes at play). will not Dilute the DARK egg genes found on BCM as much as the above cross..

so here is the rundown.

BCM x Ameraucana cross Hen= One Copy of the Blue egg shell gene plus diluted Dark brown egg shell genes will give you green eggs or light Olive eggs.

BCM x EE cross Hen= One Copy of the blue egg shell gene as well. plus a brown egg shell genes will surely give you Olive eggs...




hey how do I go about getting even darker Olive eggers? well thats EASY.. Use the best(darker eggs) F1 hens(BCM x EE) and mate them back to BCMs.. just be in the look out for pea combed chicks. they are the keepers. if you keep doing this you have 95% chance of getting even darker eggs at times goes by and they are simply Black Copper Marans with a Pea Comb(that also lay the Darkest Olive eggs the world has seen)

This is all very interesting indeed. I believe you have made this alot easier to understand. Thanks!