The Olive-Egger thread!

[nicalandia]

Out of eight chicks only ONE is a pea combed (and muffed) pullet...

with so little hatching eggs you can also get unlucky. but when you crank up the numbers then they start behaving like they should(in this case you should have had hatched 4 pea combed birds) others may get lucky and hatch 8 out of 8. thats how statistics work with small numbers. so if you are planing to do it again you will have to hatch at least 25 eggs to get really good hens

 

[nicalandia]

It doesn't have to make sense it is what it is. YOU make no sense..

your understanding on Genetics is Also very limited, and I dont ant to be rude but having a genetic debate with any of you would be senseless,

again genetics is a Science not a guessing game. and if anybody says that if you cross P/p+ bird with a p+/p+ bird and that you should expect 25% of the progeny to be pea combed then its my dutty to correct them. why? cause I´m an Educator, I cant allow ignorance runs amok on these forums..

 

[mstricer]

Quote: Whatever

 

[mstricer]

You can say what you want about it, an EE is mixed and you really don't know the genetic make up, do you, it is basically a guessing game. Spell check is available for educators also.

 

[nicalandia]

You can say what you want about it, an EE is mixed and you really don't know the genetic make up, do you, it is basically a guessing game. Spell check is available for educators also.

and Thats why I advise the "Would be" Olive egger breeder to use EE hens that are laying green eggs and have a Pea comb. so we take the "Guessing" out of the genetic equation and we can work with the genes that matter(P and O)

 

[nicalandia]

So how would one attempt the holy grail - self-replicating olive-eggers?

after you have achieved the desired Olive tone from your BC1(back cross to BCM) or BC2(Back cross second time to BCM) all you have to do is cross one of the males from that batch(again watch for the Pea combs) and mated to your best Olive eggers. you have. 25% of those chicks will carry two copies of the Blue egg shell gene and make the Olive eggs deeper in color

Or is the green shell color just an illusion of brown over blue?

thats Correct. take sand paper and your darkest Olive egger and you will see that it will turn out to be Blue once you start to sand it down

 

[mstricer]

You still have not answered the question on, whether or not you have worked on them.

 

[nicalandia]

You still have not answered the question on, whether or not you have worked on them.

I dont have to work with them to know what genes they carry. thats the beauty of Science..

Do I have to cross a Black Autralorp Rooster to a Cream Legbar hen to know I will create Sex links? no I dont. why? many scientist have done the hard work for me. Scientist like Dr. Punnett, Dr.[FONT=arial, sans-serif] Clive Carefoot, Dr. Ron Okimoto the Genetic giants we Owe so much today, so people like you can come in this web forum and ask away as many senseless questions as their heart wishes to ask and so people like me(Henk, Tim Adkerson, Sonoran silkies, to name just a few) can answer and tell them if its even remotely possible(like getting PINK colored Silkies, which in theory should be possible) and if I´m wrong I am sure any of them will quickly point me in the right way[/FONT]

[FONT=arial, sans-serif]so No, I have not worked with them. but People I love and admire have worked with them and their hard work has to mean something to you. Thanks to Punnett we all know that P/p+ mated to p+/p+ will yield 50% P/p+ birds, now if you have an issue with Dr. Punnett´s work then you are beyond help.[/FONT]

 

[seventreesfarm]

So my little blue beardless pea-combed pullet laid another pretty olive egg. I am pretty sure the roo I save back from that hatch is her sibling. Hopefully that makes him a good candidate for breeding trials. I plan to start eggs from him and my cuckoo marans & welsummer hens soon, then wait.

I have 4 pullets from that hatch in another pen, all nicely bearded & pea-combed, but it looks like one laid a brown egg today. I'm not sure if they hatched from my eggs or Donna's, but 3 are nearly identical. Assuming the same Oliver/EE/Amer as one parent, and blue or black copper Marans as the other, is it just as likely to have a mix of brown or olive eggs? I would hate to have all three of these pretty gals lay brown, so my fingers are crossed for blue genes to pop up somewhere.

I also made the mistake of hatching 3 chicks from pretty brown eggs that turned out to be laid by one of my EE's not the Barred Rock I thought. I hope those were the roos I sold, but

My next hatch will be done with baskets for each cross and tagged as I pop them in the brooder.

 

[juststruttin]

Love that Crele boy. So, sorry you lost him.

Thanks, sorry I am just now responding. I took eleven 17-18 year olds skiing for a few days for my son's 18th b-day. Call me nuts!