The Olive-Egger thread!

[alicefelldown]

It's my understanding that F1 would be the first gen olive layer (blue x dark brown)

F2 would be the chicks from your F1 olive layer mated back to either a blue or dark brown layer (this breeding should be darker olive or brighter green).

Breeding F2 to anything else (olive or blue or brown) would then make F3, which could be any shade of olive/green/brown depending on the mixes right?

 

[Happy Chooks]

I see your point. I realize their mutts, but you are right about the important part being a nicely colored olive egg.

The process of getting there is what intrigues me with these. Because there is no standard, that's nice from my perspective of being new to breeding. I can get my feet wet, without having to worry about a breed standard, learn a bit about breeding before I move on to pure stock, and have pretty eggs too.

I hope Patty (onthespot) will chime in here, since she's a breeder working more towards a standard with her barred olive eggers.

 

[Happy Chooks]

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That sounds reasonable to me. But then what do you call and F1 mated to another F1 instead of back to a blue or dark layer? Would that also be an F2?

 

[Lensters]

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Now that is one pretty bird that you can't get with a true F1 cross!

 

[kathyinmo]

I believe, as Lensters has posted ....

Breeding an F1 back to an F4 results in an F2, usually with a comment. The generation identifiers are used to understand the percentages. It is like selecting for the double barred can be done in F2 and will breed true in F3.


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I am also curious, as Lensters posted in post #380 ....

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[kathyinmo]

As stated in post 380 .... that is how I think Wynette got her golden olive eggers.

 

[Lensters]

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That sounds reasonable to me. But then what do you call and F1 mated to another F1 instead of back to a blue or dark layer? Would that also be an F2?

Actually for geneticists it is the shortest path back, so an F1 back to a purebred would be another F1, often denoted as F1b. The reason is the math for the statistics is closer to an original cross.

 

[Happy Chooks]

Okay Kathy, I give up.

I'll just play, and see what I get and worry about what to call it later.

Seriously, I know you're just trying to help. But swish - right over my head.

 

[Happy Chooks]

Lensters......F1b, what is the b? Is that because it would be a sibling cross? Trying to learn here.

 

[Lensters]

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No, a subscript denotes that it isn't a typical cross. There isn't a standard on what the subscripts mean, however a "b" has become a defacto subscript for a F1 X purebred.

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