The Plymouth Rock Breeders thread

[Wynette]

I had the same thought too, and when asking/conversing on those type issues it helps to know the area/nomenclature a bit better, it will yield more serious results from the folks that are "in the know" like where the cushion could develop is the back ..ect J/S

I think it was Joseph(yellowhousefarms) I believe posted an interesting read on just this sort of topic, like calling the cock a roo(fine for BYC) an so forth. The serious folks/breeders won't take you serious enough/waste their time on matters. Get the science down and speak it and they will listen and answer. Ok my Mr. "knowitall" session is done I'm good, LOL

Jeff

Feel better now? Kidding!! Agreed. I had quite the time years ago remembering the primaries, secondaries, coverts, etc. of the wing; once I had them down, not only did judges and longtime breeders take me more seriously hwen I asked questions, I also was able to articulate exactly what it was that I was asking about. It was a good feeling!

 

[catdaddyfro]

Feel better now? Kidding!! Agreed. I had quite the time years ago remembering the primaries, secondaries, coverts, etc. of the wing; once I had them down, not only did judges and longtime breeders take me more seriously hwen I asked questions, I also was able to articulate exactly what it was that I was asking about. It was a good feeling!

yeah, LOL I was seriously trying to get just that across, too.
and exactly articulate that's a good word for explaining around where you are or want to be.
yes you will learn more because you already know more when asking those type questions, does that make sense, LOL

Jeff

 

[Wynette]

yeah, LOL I was seriously trying to get just that across, too.
and exactly articulate that's a good word for explaining around where you are or want to be.
yes you will learn more because you already know more when asking those type questions, does that make sense, LOL

Jeff

For sure, it makes sense. Step 1 is to "know your parts." Then, you can move on to getting a better understanding of how those parts - in this example, wing feathers - work together, and why you often see defects in ONE feather type alongside defects in others in the same wing. Okay, I need more coffee now...

 

[catdaddyfro]

For sure, it makes sense. Step 1 is to "know your parts." Then, you can move on to getting a better understanding of how those part - in this example, wing feathers - work together, and why you often see defects in ONE feather type alongside defects in others in the same wing. Okay, I need more coffee now...

When I graduated High school I had the ambition of becoming a mechanic(did-now older wished I had chosen different/worn out and hurting)LOL The first advice I got from my Granddad(super smart teacher/Dr.) was to first learn the nomenclature(all the parts) of what I was working on(what purpose each served and where they went/fit <"which is muey importante"). Then, he said it will go a lot smoother/easier. He was right on the mental part being easier, the physical part is its still just hard labor, LOL

Jeff

 

[Wynette]

Sounds like your Granddad was a right smart fellow. I have a bad memory, and have always had a tough time memorizing. But for some reason, it came easier with chickens. Probably because I enjoy them so much!

 

[catdaddyfro]

Sounds like your Granddad was a right smart fellow. I have a bad memory, and have always had a tough time memorizing. But for some reason, it came easier with chickens. Probably because I enjoy them so much!

Yeah that's the ol' mind over matter scenario as I like to call it. I have trouble remembering certain things myself, others its like a cake walk LOL

I remember my chicken stuff better than my working stuff LOL the chicken stuff costs me the working stuff pays, see I'm all screwed up LOL

Jeff

 

[Silver Rock]

Clayton, just a bit of feedback for you - when you say you are "hoping for far better cushions" in your Padgett line - actually, you don't want ANY cushion at all.  I'm sure that's what you meant, but just in case, I thought a bit of clarification would be helpful. 

Kudos for realizing that if the females in the line have cushions, the males would add to the issue as well.  It's a nice cockerel that you have, though - if he were in my breeding pen, I'd try him over some of the Padgett females when they mature, assuming they have what you're looking for to move forward.  I would do breedings both ways - best Padgett male over best best Horstman female, and vice versa; mostly because I'm super curious about genetics and out of my own curiosity, I'd want to see what results.

Please don't become discouraged; it's tough looking through the pictures of all the birds posted here with super nice type, and then looking at your own flock, sometimes - believe me, "been there, done that."  After the many years I've spent breeding SPR, I have found to enjoy the small leaps forward that I have made.  We can't compare our SPR to some of these gorgeous Barred and other varieties...at this point, it's comparing apples to...hmmm...maybe not QUITE oranges!  In any event, we're all here to help each other learn & move forward!

Hi Wynette
Have you ever had the cushion problems in your Silver Penciled Plymouth Rocks. If so can you please inform me on how you fix the cushion problems in your line.

 

[Wynette]

Clayton, yes, I have had them in one the lines of SPR I had; it's typically an issue with a short-backed female. As you know, most of we SPR breeders are working to increase the overall size of this variety - larger size and longer backs will help resolve the issue. Alongside that, you will see the tails of your females open right up - they should look like a tent when viewed from back, but when we get the females with shoter backs and smaller stature, pinched tails often goes right along with it, unfortunately.

 

[Silver Rock]

Clayton, yes, I have had them in one the lines of SPR I had; it's typically an issue with a short-backed female.  As you know, most of we SPR breeders are working to increase the overall size of this variety - larger size and longer backs will help resolve the issue.  Alongside that, you will see the tails of your females open right up - they should look like a tent when viewed from back, but when we get the females with shoter backs and smaller stature, pinched tails often goes right along with it, unfortunately.

Thank you for the information and the breeding advice between my SPPR Horstman / Padgett lines.

 

[Fred's Hens]

As a composite breed, the Plymouth Rock has genetics that come from it's distant past. What I know about genetics wouldn't fill a thimble and I sure as heck don't understand all the fancy code that really smart folks on BYC write in with those letters and + signs and - signs, etc.


But this I know. Soft feathering detracts from the Rock, regardless of variety. The varieties, Buff, SPR, White, Barred all have different histories which make their composite unique. Just because we all have Rocks doesn't mean the same issues are faced by everyone. I dislike fluffy skirting on the Barred Rocks, for example. It shows up on the males and the females. Let me show you two photos of "sisters".





What do you see inside the circles?