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[LOVEIGEE]

Bee, the big girls bowl (layer mash/boss) smells like sour corn......is that right? Sorry....just started...want it to be right.......

 

[LOVEIGEE]

I am not Bee, however I would start with 1/2 cup each. If they are small bread, possibly 1/3 cup each. When you come home, if there is less than 1/2, you are ok if it is more than 1/2 left, add less next time. If it is empty you need to add a bit more.(doubt it will be empty, but ya never know).

Thank you Delisha......just wanted a ball ground amount......they are RIR and Blue Orpingtons.....Thank you again....

 

[Mountain Momma]

That's why I'm here...to say the things that others are reluctant to say.

In this world folks are so scared to have strong values or take a strong stance on a subject in fear that someone will label them "intolerant". That word is thrown around a lot nowadays like it's something bad. It's not. I'm intolerant of many, many things and it's not bad to know where you are in the this world and just how much you will swallow before it chokes you.

Being intolerant~for me~ does not indicate heard hearted-ness, ignorance or hatred...rather, it should indicate that one has put a lot of thought into what is good or bad for their lives and will not tolerate the bad being there. Sort of like not tolerating a copperhead to live under your front porch steps...sooner or later this situation may put someone in danger or hurt someone.

The only time intolerance is bad is when it turns into violence, hatred or, even worse, indifference, to your fellow man. I can love and nurture someone through their pain and suffering and still be very intolerant of their lifestyle and their actions. It is called upon us to do so and I try to do it. If I see something that I know to be a bad thing, I'll speak up and say, "To me, that is a bad thing." Not everyone has to believe me or listen to me, even...but there will be some that will think, "Gee, I'm glad someone pointed that out because now I see it too. Glad I didn't try that, go there, eat that, etc."

That's what makes the thread so good....we can all not have any fear of saying what we feel because we know that we are all saying it from a heart-felt place and not from idle rabble rousing to make others feel bad. I don't say that gal's method is bad to make others feel bad for using it, I say it because of what I know about killing chickens and from what I see happening in that chicken's body. It's deceptive to describe this method as saying it is more peaceful and good for the bird when anyone with a good eye for how chickens act when they are frightened can see that is just so much white wash for the person and not so much peace and love for the animal.

When you want to know about building something correctly, you see a carpenter...not just any carpenter, but one who is good and honest by repute. When you want surgery, you see a surgeon...not just any surgeon, you want experience and success under that scrub top. When you want to know about killing animals, you reference someone who has done it many times for many years...and not just anyone but someone who shows a true compassion for the animals they kill. That's really what it comes down to.

I agree. I first thought this was the way even the OT expected it to be done well and I went out and bought a pink scarf. Now, after processing the turkey I think the best thing to bring to the event is respect. We improved our technique from the goose to the turkey and the next will be a better technique as well but showing the animal respect is what I want my kids to learn more than anything. I havent done the upside down throat cut yet but Im starting to think that is the best way. Tying the turkeys' head to the nails definitely helped and she stayed calm almost to the end. DH was a trooper and the kids were respectful. Nina spent about 10 minutes with the bird talking to her before the event. Nina was very matter of fact and explained it all to the turkey...that made me more emotional than anything. At the end of the day we were given the animals to eat and be thankful for. Showing them respect for the sacrifice makes the process valid and an affirmation of the respect I and my family have for the provision we get from God. Nothing to be sad about unless there has been poor management or something that common sense should have kept from happening. Thanks Bee for making this statement. I kept my opinions to myself but thought it was a little too much as well.

 

[Melabella]

Well,

As conversations sometimes appear in real life, today when I was doing chores, and finishing up everything, I noticed the girls and Duke around the coop, getting ready to fill their crops, drink a bunch of water and put themselves to bed. I love this time of day, lately it's been about 4:20pm when they make their way out from any of 5 or 6 places they can be. This flock is very quiet, I seldom hear anything from them. Half were inside at the feeder, and the other half were outside picking on the last bit of lettuce I had donated to them. I heard a large squawk, and wings flapping, and looked outside thinking two of them were having a disagreement. That is when I saw a HUGE hawk swooping by. He went in between the coop and my riding ring. He was huge. The few that were outside ran into their covered run, and I quickly did a head count, and shut the door to the run. Jack was no where around. He was playing ball with my daughter and her friends on the other side of the barn.

Perhaps it's happened before when I was in the house.

Drat

MB

 

[Mountain Momma]

I did! Looks much like mine did before I stirred in the rest of a pound of sulfur powder...then it got more yellow like the original NS. But not much...just that pale, store bought egg yolk yellow.

Doesn't it feel good to have a ton of NS on hand and knowing you will never use all that in your lifetime unless you run an ostrich farm and they all get scale mites? I find myself wasting it just because I can! I put some on the Bat's scaly winter dry feet last night to see if it will cure her "scale mites"...we both got a chuckle over that one.

lol. I went ahead and ordered it from the feed store. I had it on the counter when a friend came over for dinner. She has been battling an auto immune disorder and all of her hair on her whole body has been gone for a couple years. She picked it up and then she said "i'm going to go use this on my head! I'll be right back!" She actually used it and we are waiting on results!
L

 

[thedragonlady]

Melabella, that's kind of the way it has been here...the dogs used to come and "play" or greet our dog when we had him out they are/were sweet dogs. But they have one problem, they chase/run/hunt and now the one has tasted chicken. We have 2 acres...so far the chicken guardian angel has been working overtime for ours, but not for someone else's chicken, we think we know where that chicken came from. There are only 3 of us on the road that have chickens that I know of. Hope things stay mellow for you. If it had just been "chicken bowling" it would have been one thing, but now there has been a kill....so it's not just bowling with chickens.

One or Two of your dogs with your chickens can be fine, but let them run loose with a pack of other dogs and the pack mentality takes over. They will then kill. Keep YOUR dogs at home !

 

[Pullet Surprise]

The wierd thing is the chicken killer dog was on its own, not even her sister with her...our dog was in the house per usual. But you are right about the pack mentality, I've seen it happen too many times nice dogs gone "bad"

 

[Miss Lydia]

lol. I went ahead and ordered it from the feed store. I had it on the counter when a friend came over for dinner. She has been battling an auto immune disorder and all of her hair on her whole body has been gone for a couple years. She picked it up and then she said "i'm going to go use this on my head! I'll be right back!" She actually used it and we are waiting on results!
L

It may just work, it has helped to grow the feathers back on my hen who had the vent gleet. I hope it works for your friend.

 

[Beekissed]

This would be good to add to the blog!

I think she already has the rooster training tips over there and they are more detailed, I'm thinking. But...can't really say it enough, though, can we? Rooster is small, we are big. End of story.

Went out just a few min ago to take some pics of my bantam who had the gleet to show what a difference the ff and the nu stock has made, well there is a big difference in the way she looks over all but when close examination with all the feathers back there there is still some gook coming out of her bottom the whitish kind,

But it must not be near as potent as it was because she has grown all her feathers back and looks so healthy, so i have not given up on her just need to start up the better butter routine again, I hadn't put any on her for about 2weeks. Over all though there is a huge difference in her appearance, and the fact that she has feathers on her bottom well it's amazing, so I will put off pics till she is 100% and then we'll diff have bragging rights. Granny Bee first of course since she is the one who started this whole thing. and me well I'll just be pleased as punch that she is a healthy girl, they are such wonderful broodies and mamas I would have been very sad to have lost her.

Aww, that's a shame! Was so hoping the NS had cleared her up for good.

I'm going to cull Ruby due to ongoing vent problems that I'm assuming are structural in nature but they won't let her vent close properly, so she has a leaky vent. She's a pretty bird and lays in season but, ultimately, she has either an abnormal body structure that causes bad hygiene around the vent and a subsequent bacterial/fungal growth,and/or she has a faulty immune system. Either way this makes her a cull.

I know that's a hard one for folks to understand but ongoing and recurring health problems for any bird within a healthy flock that is being raised on a healthy husbandry method is a natural cull. Not even for genetics sake and even if one never plans to breed that particular chicken, her poor immune system leaves her as a weak bird that may always be prone to infection and/or parasite infestation and having this disease/parasite vector strolling through the flocks, sleeping with the flocks, eating with the flocks raises the chances of having other birds become exposed to their disease/parasites.

One could argue that, if the rest of the birds have proper immunities and health the sick bird's presence won't matter, but at any given time a healthy bird's immune system can have a temporary dip~molting, brooding, chicks too young to have formed a proper one yet. During that temporary weakness, it is possible that a constantly sick bird can expose them to her parasite load, bacterial load, abnormal yeast load, etc and then you have a bigger problem.

This is the reason Miss Ruby has to go. She has been here over 2 mo. and her butt, though not seriously gleety looking, still has a bad odor, moisture and fecal residue in the feathers at all times. It's time.

Bee,
I have just started my 4 week olds (4) on FF. We leave for work at 7:30.....how much FF do I put in brooder to leave until I get home-2:45?
I have it in regular chick feeder....smells nice, kind of like yeast working. They are not really excited about it right now, but want them to have the best....
Love you!

That's an individual bird/flock determination and one can only find out by experimenting. How much dry did you normally feed? Feed the same. If there is too much left over at the end of the day, feed less the next day. If there is too much gone compared to their usual consumption, feed more. I could give you measurements like they do in the book but that only holds true if all birds eat exactly the same amounts. I've never seen that happen in all my life, so I just do it by "feel", if you know what I mean?

Sort of like feeding dogs. If we went by the instructions on the bag we would feed X amount to our dog each day and never vary from that amount. If I did that, my Lucy would have gotten too fat but Jake, who has a higher metabolism, might not do as well. A person sort of feeds by feel to average things out and to make sure all animals concerned are going to get a full gut without getting too fat. This changes with the seasons, with their age, with the availability of other feeds outside their regular feed ration.

Love you back, Hon! Missed you around here!

Bee, the big girls bowl (layer mash/boss) smells like sour corn......is that right? Sorry....just started...want it to be right.......

It's right!

lol. I went ahead and ordered it from the feed store. I had it on the counter when a friend came over for dinner. She has been battling an auto immune disorder and all of her hair on her whole body has been gone for a couple years. She picked it up and then she said "i'm going to go use this on my head! I'll be right back!" She actually used it and we are waiting on results!
L

Ya never really know!

You might turn her onto ingesting some mother vinegar each day to boost her immune system...could do way more for her than the NS. Sheep farmers report better wool quality and growth after using ACV in the water each day, not to mention overall better health and feed conversion.

 

[aoxa]

Bee. Seriously considering getting twin ewes. Thoughts? They are Suffolk sheep. I PM'd this to you. Hoping it will let me post now :/

Be careful of the cuteness..... PMd you back! Sure are purdy standing in that tall green. I love me some sheeples...

You are making me wish I won the powerball so I could get that house in the country next year........so much space & beauty you both have in yards........ *sigh* I think I would be in trouble if I had a house in the country.....Id want 2 of each like Noah's ark so I could be self sustaining....... I will just drool over your guys pics for now

This isn't my picture, oh I wish! I don't have fields like that. Most of my land is wooded. I have 1 1/2 acres that are not - and it's grass, clover and weeds Their previous owner was a photographer

Bee. Seriously considering getting twin ewes. Thoughts? They are Suffolk sheep. I PM'd this to you. Hoping it will let me post now :/

Aoxa, Nice lambs, but they are not purebred Suffolks. Look to be a cross with a wool breed which is a good cross. They could raise some nice lambs for you. Check the mouth on the one on the left. She may be just chewing in the picture......but could be her bite is off.

Thanks The bite seems fine in person, so I think she must have been chewing. I really don't care if they are mixed, but what else do you think they have in them? Their faces are darker now, but not as dark as suffolks on Google Images. They are cuter than the Sufflolks too

Clem's first encounter with Molly!

Not sure what to think, though she was very submissive. Even took quite a few head butts.

Good luck, dear! Please let us know all about it, good or bad...we all learn and it helps to talk about it the first time. I'm trying to get her to get Katahdins instead! This is little newborn Mo' Fats. And Black Betty, Little Mo and Ugly Betty, respectively.

Aoxa, I would take Bee's advise. She hasn't failed us yet!

Doesn't matter to me if they are pure or not They are the same size as Clementine, which is perfect. We ended up getting the two girls despite Bee trying to get me to get those Katahdins Though I may consider something less wooly in the future.

It snowed for the first time today.. For all of 5 minutes.

Love this picture.. Though the land is so boring right now.. Dull.. Uninviting. A bit of snow would look better than this.

Lots going on here